you had several people including the president s former top political aide saying that don j had committed treason. can you just tell us what exactly is treason? and what are the penalties for treason? and should republicans and democrats alike both cool it? let s start with the last question, the answer is yes. you know, the framers had an interesting position on treason. they tried to take this word off the table in our political discussions because when our country was formed it was very common for the crown to accuse people of being traders and to take their land and imprisonen them. and people like james madison wanted to stop it. wanted to create a standard constitution is one of the few occasions for this type of action where the crime is defined in the constitution itself and it s there to make it
would be to write about with some hindsight. so much is distraction. his treason remark when i saw it i just rolled my eyes and said, okay, yeah, the stock market is collapsing right now. so he s going to call the democrats treasonist. again, i brought up the part in the book where he slandered mee karks lied about mika, tried to face shame mika, said a lot of really terrible things. the president, not howie and lied repeatedly in this tweet that actually got front page coverage all over the world. like one of my favorite tweets was there s a picture of a chinese newspaper, there s a picture of donald trump, melania and mika. oh my god. and the person wrote, i don t read mandarin, but i know what this headline says. that s deflection. but you read the book and scaramucci is saying it s wrong to do it and trump says is anybody talking about the russia investigation? and scaramucci says no, it s a
and that they learn later on, from the podium, sarah huckabee sanders, or john kelly behind closed doors on the hill, that they just, they simply cannot take action based on what they hear from the president. it s really, it s quite remarkable. it s become our normal. but it s really quite remarkable and new and a different way of governing and doing things here. at the end of the day on immigration it s going to come down to whether speaker ryan is confident that whatever he would put on the house floor president trump would sign. i think john kelly is going to give him the indication and the sign on that. and that s what s ultimately going to determine whether we have a solution for the daca kids, if there s no appetite for a shutdown on capitol hill they re not going to let what the president said yesterday stop them. it is really republicans do tell me, this is like nothing they ve ever seen before. of course democrats say it as well. is that the president is completely disconn
immigrants in the middle of a government shutdown battle over immigration in which the republicans are holding a winning hand. chief of staff walked into the white house briefing room a few months ago and attacked african-american congresswoman and the most recent president of the united states and told a story that proved to be demon stra bli false because there was video and audio of it things had taken place down in florida. i can tell you there are an awful lot of african-americans who detected racial an mist in the way that played out and the chief of staff never apologized for that story, which was just not true. it was made up. and so i think there s a pattern here where on these issues that touch culture and touch race where the chief of staff is not that far away from where donald trump is on some of these issues. that s loaded. we ll leave that right there and get to our next guest. earlier our next loaded segment. we brought up president trump calling democrats tre
he is an enlisted marine. he is very conservative and is a believer in the chain of command, what he said was terribly unfortunate, terribly sad and not accurate because it cost $500 to apply for a daca card. i don t know a lot of people when we see them all of us see them, go to a gas station early on a saturday morning, watch them gas up their lawn moe wers and you know they re here illegally. go to the hospital. $500 to apply for daca application. so that s a lot of money. you see those people and you don t think lazy. that s not the first word that comes to mind when you think of undocumented workers in america. what s he doing, phillip? playing to the president s lowest common denominator or playing to the base? are he and donald trump both playing to the base? they believe it. he believes it. that s exactly right. who believes it? i think john kelly believes it.