afghanistan. interesting you talk about the history. when he went if with the russians and ultimately felt very badly about how the taliban was able to come back in after the success they had with the soviet union and, again, it s just an epic struggle in that part of the world. well, polls are showing people are feeling they just don t again the afghanistan has to be put to the focus of our debate about money and what our national moral crisis is as we try to move forward. it s not. it s our budgets and our own wallets and in washington that s what they re bickering about with a deadline fora deficit looming he ll meet with national caucus members. it follows vice president biden who continues to sound hopeful about a possible deal. optimism is an occupational requirement. i remain optimistic. we had a really good discussion. we have set an aanyone da for the next meeting and we re making real progress and whether
that took bin laden out in this end and intelligence through pakistan not even what we were doing in afghanistan. it s not even a mission, this is a disaster for america of huge scale that never had a reason but there is cover, as you say right now, declare victory, come home. that was always the answer. now, we have a real reason to declare victory, let s get out of there. let s bring in from washington, moderator of meet the press, david gregory. i know we have a lot to talk about given the fact you have newt gingrich on the show this sunday. do you think afghanistan will become on the front lines of a national conversation when it comes to money, budgets and also the direction of this country. are we going to get there? we already have a withdrawal that will begin to happen by this summer. if bin laden accelerates something, it s those talks you try to bring the taliban back into the fray, the pashtun areas of afghanistan and try to salvage what you can of a clean
could not answer the question what is our objective? and we ve asked repeatedly various people on the show from washington, d.c., senate and the house, that is our objective there and they hem and they huh and they really can t give you one, two, three, here s our objectivement let s find out. certainly an appropriate time to reassess. it really is and i think the symbolic feeling about bin laden s death and maybe even a legitimate one depending on how much power he still had and certainly the information garnered out of his compound, all of these things should help turn the page in some way. we do have to honor the mission and what our troops have been doing. at the same time how long, how long do we lose men and women to this sort of unwinnable objective. jonathan, you think senator kerry can be the guy? i mean if he makes this his legacy, i m going to lead hearings, i m going to lead us out of afghanistan, is this a good moment for him. sure, absolutely.
thorough investigate that shows there was no information shared with unauthorized third parties like profiles, photographs and online chats. don t put anything online you don t want people to see. don t do it. at some point, right? right? i tell that to my kids. i tell it to their friends, too, who text my daughter. my goodness. they just don t get it. i m not sure they should have technology. we should do a segment on that. after 10 years in afghanistan, our next guest says the u.s. effort to win over hearts and minds is no longer realistic. new yorkers, john leander son, next on morning joe. nobody better. hey, did you ever finish last month s invoices?
identify who s who in this mess? well, a mess, i would say, is accurate. what i do feel, jeffrey, is i would say that i feel that, you know, this is huge overleaning presence of the u.s. army and military and these vast bases supported by umbilical cords costing billions, too much too late in a way. it s almost like planet america hovering just above the ground in afghanistan. it came in very late at a time when the afghans were already jaundiced and had for the most part, made their decisions as to which side they needed to be on, in order to survive. you know, years into a reascendent taliban, people there pretty much have to go will be there tomorrow and next week and next year. it s usually not going to be the latest american colonel out of