make wacky omarosa look legitimate. omarosa claims do have tapes of ivanka and trump and jared kushner. martha: thanks. governor mike huckabee joins now. you know a lot of people involved in all of this. does any of this surprise you? when you listen to the tape with john kelly, is there anything surprising about that conversation? you know there is, martha. when i listened to john kelly letting her down easy, i am thinking that s the most gentle general i have ever seen when he is firing somebody. martha: she said he was threatening her? no, he was making it clear she had integrity issues and she was understand able to stay.