ellen even called the academy on his behalf. this all prompted more outrage, naturally. for some, particularly those in the black lgbt community, ellen s was presumptuous. for others, hart didn t seem authentically apologetic and looked too darn staged. it s unclear what it accomplished for kevin hart s oscar hosting chances but did accomplish one thing. sparked a national debate. joining me to discuss this thorny issue, my friend and comedian judy gold. what did you make of the ellen/kevin four year show? i don t think it was supposed to be him for the entire hour. really? i don t know. i think ahead the call mid way through? don t quote me but i think it was really interesting because, you know, i can see it from two perspectives. i see it from a comedian s perspective and i see it from a member of the lgbt community.