plain clothes and sort of talk about what the court was like or what the kind of big debates were of the day. i would never want to discourage them from engaging in that way because in the best circumstances they feed the public discourse. but in a way identifying, it helps demystify the court. unfortunately, right now the court s doing a pretty good job of demystifying itself on its own. and as you point out, there is only one side in this debate to blame for the low regard that the court has been held in. it s not a new thing but it s gotten worse and worse. and i ll say one last thing to claire s point. i mean, if you you think about this story, the piece in the times talks about all these elements, attempts to lobby, attempts to work the political levers, to treat the court like it s a political body. and kim talked about some of the more theistic kind of impulses of the right-wing crusaders. think about this. the kind of influence that people have on the outside now on the court
donald trump s potential criminality around january 6th. guess who was talking to donald trump s chief of staff about the fake electors plot, which is very much under criminal investigation by the special counsel. ginni thomas. i mean, kim, at this point and there s no evidence the court wants to clear its name with the 72% of americans who don t trust it. what could they do if they wanted to? yeah. i mean, i think particularly with the january 6th committee any potential influence that ginni thomas may have hinted that she has with the court needs to be examined. we don t know exactly what that is. but i want to get back to claire s point because i think it s so important. we have three branches of government. we have the judicial branch, which is supposed to be independent. they are not elected, the federal judiciary. they have lifetime appointments because they re supposed to work
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