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like, give people opportunities who might not have necessarily had the name. like, i give people opportunities. people send me things to try things. i m like, oh! let s give her an opportunity . step out of the box and look in other directions. look for other people beside your normal clique of people. because i think the worst thing and the worst offences have been when you have people of colour and you have nobody in the trailer that they represent. it s not right, it s not fair. and every actor who sits in the chair should have an opportunity to have an artist who can do their skin tone, that can do their hairtexture. and there s no excuse for us, as hairstylists and make up artists, in 2023, for us not to be able to do that. i mean, i also think it s a two part thing. because i think in those higher level decision making rooms, there needs to be more people of colour. 0h, definitely. and then, um. thankfully, women like us, i mean, i always have, you know, assistants
and led theirfamilies in a way that isjust really, really strong and beautiful and really inspiring. yeah. camille, family also played a crucial role in your career choices. you re a third generation hairstylist. did that mean spending a lot of time in the salon as a young kid? 0h, definitely. being a third generation hairstylist is, you know, one of the things i m most proud of. i have a big family, lots of hair stylists. and, like, when i go into a salon and ijust smell it, it makes me happy. like, i love the smell of perms! i love the smells of relaxers. and. relaxers? oh, yeah! like, i love all the smells of the salon cos it s familiarto me. it s totally familiar. and, you know, always, we had to work in the salon. so you had to sweep hair, take rollers down. you had to earn you getting your hair done. so, at the end of the day, that s when we would, our cousins, we would shampoo each other s hair and get ready to get in the chair.
good. camille, being a head of department on a big blockbuster film must come with a lot of pressure and responsibility. you re working really long hours. and inevitably, there must be moments of stress and conflict. oh, yeah. how do you manage that? well, you know, there s always going to be stress and conflict when you re dealing with people. and i say this, hairstylists are like herding cats. you cannot do that. so i mean, we re. imean, we re. we re.we re creative people, and, but, you know, and i always tell people coming from the salon, the difference is, when you re on a film, there s a lot of rules. we tell you when to be there, when to go home, when to have lunch. you can t be on your phone. and a lot of hair stylists who come from salons, they re like, what? ! it s a whole. but it s a whole different get down. but if you can lend yourself and you can step out of yourself, you know, you can create a beautiful atmosphere. and that s.and that s what i try to do. and always, in