going to be stress and conflict when you re dealing with people. and i say this, hairstylists are like herding cats. you cannot do that. so i mean, we re. imean, we re. we re.we re creative people, and, but, you know, and i always tell people coming from the salon, the difference is, when you re on a film, there s a lot of rules. we tell you when to be there, when to go home, when to have lunch. you can t be on your phone. and a lot of hair stylists who come from salons, they re like, what? ! it s a whole. but it s a whole different get down. but if you can lend yourself and you can step out of yourself, you know, you can create a beautiful atmosphere. and that s.and that s what i try to do. and always, in my trailer, i call it a teaching. a place, it s a safe space. if you don t know how to do something, that s ok with me. let.let me show you how to do it. because i m great at. i love teaching and i m open. and even people like. i love people. like, if you don t know how to do some
and inevitably, there must be moments of stress and conflict. oh, yeah. how do you manage that? well, you know, there s always going to be stress and conflict when you re dealing with people. and i say this, hairstylists are like herding cats. you cannot do that. so i mean, we re. imean, we re. we re.we re creative people, and, but, you know, and i always tell people coming from the salon, the difference is, when you re on a film, there s a lot of rules. we tell you when to be there, when to go home, when to have lunch. you can t be on your phone. and a lot of hair stylists who come from salons, they re like, what? ! it s a whole. but it s a whole different get down. but if you can lend yourself and you can step out of yourself, you know, you can create a beautiful atmosphere. and that s.and that s what i try to do. and always, in my trailer, i call it a teaching. a place, it s a safe space. if you don t know how to do something, that s ok with me. let.let me show you how to do it.
for some of the most iconic looks of the past few years. zerina akers is an emmy award winning fashion stylist and costume designer. she s best known for her work with beyonce. she was queen bey s personal wardrobe curator for seven years. and you can see her creations on the visual album, black is king. in 2020, zerina founded black owned everything, a platform supporting black artists and creators. zerina, welcome. thank you. and camille friend is a renowned hairstyle designer. and she s been nominated for an oscarfor her work on black panther: wakanda forever. she s worked on seven other marvel titles, including captain america, and on otherfilms, like the hateful eight, django unchained, and the little mermaid. she also trains younger generations of hairstylists through her academy, hair scholars. camille, welcome. thank you so much. welcome to you both, ladies. thank you. now, you both work with strong,
and i think they ve all kind of grabbed life by the horns and led theirfamilies in a way that isjust really, really strong and beautiful and really inspiring. yeah. camille, family also played a crucial role in your career choices. you re a third generation hairstylist. did that mean spending a lot of time in the salon as a young kid? 0h, definitely. being a third generation hairstylist is, you know, one of the things i m most proud of. i have a big family, lots of hair stylists. and, like, when i go into a salon and ijust smell it, it makes me happy. like, i love the smell of perms! i love the smells of relaxers. and. relaxers? oh, yeah! like, i love all the smells of the salon cos it s familiarto me. it s totally familiar. and, you know, always, we had to work in the salon. so you had to sweep hair, take rollers down. you had to earn you getting your hair done. so, at the end of the day, that s when we would, our cousins, we would shampoo each other s hair and get ready
with a lot of pressure and responsibility. you re working really long hours. and inevitably, there must be moments of stress and conflict. oh, yeah. how do you manage that? well, you know, there s always going to be stress and conflict when you re dealing with people. and i say this, hairstylists are like herding cats. you cannot do that. so i mean, we re. imean, we re. we re.we re creative people, and, but, you know, and i always tell people coming from the salon, the difference is, when you re on a film, there s a lot of rules. we tell you when to be there, when to go home, when to have lunch. you can t be on your phone. and a lot of hair stylists who come from salons, they re like, what? ! it s a whole. but it s a whole different get down. but if you can lend yourself and you can step out of yourself, you know, you can create a beautiful atmosphere. and that s.and that s what i try to do. and always, in my trailer, i call it a teaching. a place, it s a safe space. if you don t kn