collusion between the russians and trump campaign. for now that testimony delivered to the committee in a closed door committee is not a matter of public record. however, during a meeting, mer suggest thad might change. i would like the transcripts released. i i don t know why i wouldn t but i don t want to say to because i never in all the years i ve been in h kocongress i hav gone through this process. joining me now is msnbc national security special agent. former fbi. good to see you all. clint let me start with you. we re in a different world now. americans have rarely in the history, certainly in the last