collusion between the russians and trump campaign. for now that testimony delivered to the committee in a closed door committee is not a matter of public record. however, during a meeting, mer suggest thad might change. >> i would like the transcripts released. >> i i don't know why i wouldn't but i don't want to say to because i never in all the years i've been in h kocongress i hav gone through this process. >> joining me now is msnbc national security special agent. former fbi. good to see you all. clint let me start with you. we're in a different world now. americans have rarely in the history, certainly in the last