borrow them. we have no idea. but to push gun control, saying i don t like guns. i don t want anybody to have them. you talk to anybody on the street who doesn t like guy you re talking to the wrong guy. i grew up with gun us. we slept with gun racks over our beds. i lived in a rural part of america. make sure you understand, don t ever do that. don t ever just try to assume that people are who want some level of gun control don t have any idea of what guns are, have never owned a gun, that is not right. let me finish i want to say i m going to go ahead. i m going to finish. my brother is also he sells guns. he s a gun collector. he sees it up close, this idea of people who can buy and sell without any sort of gun laws. that s actually what we don t
senator tom harper of delaware, the ranking member of homeland security committee. thank you so much for joining us. i know that you have been in support of gun control. you think congress should make laws stronger. but when you hear a parent whose daughter was there at that community college, one of the victims, who says my child should have been armed and maybe things would have worked out differently. i mean it proves that even those in the middle even those immediately affected and impacted are divided. i don t know that well first of all, let me just say for those who lost members of their family in oregon, our hearts bleed for them. i think the worst thing i can imagine as a father of a couple of boys myself, it is the worst thing that can happen to a ma am. i think we have more guns per capita than any other nation in the world. my dad was a big hunter, gun collector, gun trader. my dad also believed we should use some common sense. it also included making sure we
was happening in adam lanza s mind. we do know he had a complex set of disorders and a complex set of behaviors that went with those disorders. and so his mother did what she could, we believe to, provide him the kinds of support he needed both in the educational setting and at home. what we do know for sure, he had access to a high-capacity magazine and a semiautomatic rifle that could take the life, you know, of dozens of people at one time. and so we do know that that was possible. you see, i am not afraid of the gun collector in middle america who may have two or three shotguns or enjoy shooting at a range or sthooting out in the desert. i m not afraid ofhat person. but that person also cannot buy an unlimited amount of sued fed, even if they handle it correctly, because someone else may misuse. so what we ve got to focus on re is the conmer product at hand. adam lanza cannot get their hands on them. and john, isn t that really the point? the common denominator is the fact that s
are serving life sentences for murder. it goes all the way down to armed robbery, then we get burglary, grand theft auto. you ll hear, i m not a thief, i m a killer. i hate to say it, but murder is a respected crime by a lot of these inmates, and they don t bother me. we met gerald at the penitentiary in iowa where he was serving two life sentences for murder and attempted murder. 11 years earlier he opened fire at the factory where he worked. i was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia and i didn t know it at the time and my family was trying to get me committed and i refused to go to a mental health place because i was afraid that they would take away my guns because i was a gun collector and i had a lot of guns and i knew that once they found me mentally incompetent, i wouldn t be able to have guns anymore. and it developed to the point where i got delusional and
media. he would have a trip switch. and he d get violent and angry and he d fight with people and cause a lot of problems. and i mean that s the incident with me and him was because he was drunk at a party and he started shouting, swearing on the phone. reporter: he describes that incident as beginning when pistorius thought a girlfriend was cheating on him. despite bachelor s size, pistorius wanted a fight. he said he s not scared. if i want him to come down there, blah, blah. but i left it, you know. reporter: one thing many don t know is that pistorius was armed nearly everywhere he went. he even applied to become a licensed gun collector so he could buy more than the four guns allowed by south african law. just last january, though the facts are in dispute, friend and boxer said pistorius was holding a gun at this outdoor cafe when