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senator tom harper of delaware, the ranking member of homeland security committee. thank you so much for joining us. i know that you have been in support of gun control. you think congress should make laws stronger. but when you hear a parent whose daughter was there at that community college, one of the victims, who says my child should have been armed and maybe things would have worked out differently. i mean it proves that even those in the middle even those immediately affected and impacted are divided. i don t know that well first of all, let me just say for those who lost members of their family in oregon, our hearts bleed for them. i think the worst thing i can imagine as a father of a couple of boys myself, it is the worst thing that can happen to a ma am. i think we have more guns per capita than any other nation in the world. my dad was a big hunter, gun collector, gun trader. my dad also believed we should use some common sense. it also included making sure we