The latest news from around the world with hosts John Berman and Poppy Harlow. That he was not trying to lead them in the direction of believing the law said you had to have an actual loan granted in a case like this. Only that manafort had a applied for that law with fraudulent information, poppy. Got it. Joe, before you go, its also intriguing that we learned that rick gates is not only required to testify as part of this plea deal with mueller team, in this trial hes required to help with the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election. The prbroader russia probe. Thats part of his Cooperation Deal in all of this. What do we know about that requirement . Reporter what we know is that mr. Gates has to cooperate. He has to cooperate fully. We also know that there was a discussion earlier in the trial when he was being questioned by prosecution or defense. I believe it was the defense and he was asked if he had been talked if he had talked to the fbi about the campaign
reason that they swept up when they went into his house? don t know if they have those results yet back. i m thinking this is far more sensitive in terms of search warrant material. if you re talking about seizing communications from guccifer, russians, wikileaks, it could be from his house but would also be redundantly captured in intercepts of those two parties as well. stone and manafort both have exhibited and not only a huge egos but a naivety to what mueller has access to in terms of signal intelligence and the entire spectrum of u.s. intelligence agency collection. when you lie to people who have that kind of information, you re
pages long and has copious amounts of flfinformation. if manafort receives a sentence in the recommended range, it would be the harshest handed down thus far. then there s his other case in d.c. and another prison sentence awaiting. the judge in that case ruled he lied to investigators. a violation of his cooperation deal with the feds. there s also news about paul manafort s one time business partner roger stone. today mueller s team filed a document in stone s case rejecting his request for a different judge and in the document, the feds say for the first time they have evidence of roger stone communicating with wikileaks as well as guciffer 2.0. that was the alias used by russian attackers to hack into the dnc, steal the e-mails and leak them. that s notable because stone
mueller said it s all stocked in the ledger of aggravating factors. there are zero mitigating factors in his favor which was really startling. indeed. our two former feds are nodding back with you. frank, on the matter of roger stone, i thought he said numerous times he hasn t been in contact with guciffer or wikileaks? this may be the closest we have come thus far to actual criminal collusion. evidence of cluolluding with a foreign power. this is big. it s buried in a transcript where mueller is saying, wait a minute, roger stone is arguing that he doesn t like this judge. shouldn t be lumped in with thi these russian intelligence officers in the same breath, in the same case similarities and wants out of this. doesn t know these guys and he says in response, i actually have communications that i got
the system? i do. i agree it s fascinating we get these really important details of what you call an ancillary finding. i find it that he didn t include it. what do you think? he was holding back. he had these materials. it was a strategic calculation they wanted to have a surprise element. maybe to protect on ongoing investigations to other people involved including whoever was in the trump campaign that was in contact with stone and whoever was directing that person to be in touch with roger stone. i think it is really interesting. this is the first explicit statement from mueller about direct communications between stone and wikileaks on the one hand and stone and guciffer 2.0, who were the russians, as we know. frank, i know you re nodding along as jessica speaks. do we think this is the kind of