word, collusion, conspiracy. whether there s conspiracy, an intent to commit a crime and mutual agreement. so he s the guy to look out there to provide that link. as to whether or not there was this collusion. how do we know? remember last month, jim, that 12 russian officials indicted, intelligence officers, and then there s the gucifer? two when s that twitter handle tied back to the russians. who communicated with that person? roger stone, an operative to the campaign, roger stone. who establishes a nexus between the campaign and ill legality to get to the c word of collusion, conspiracy? roger stone. so prosecutors are doing due diligence as they move forward to determine whether or not there was collusion. he holds the link. anyone around him will tell you what his modus operandi was.
campaign committee realizes what s happened in june of that year. the consequences, you write, became clear in august. what happens? these documents start to trickle out then. sure. well, we know that in july, it was the dnc when the convention was occurring where there was all the attention on the fact that the democratic party documents were coming out. but it wasn t until august that gucifer 2 began to release a separate set of documents and spread them out in states across the united states. in particular, florida. and what happens in august is these documents, which are essentially the democrats looking at the weakness of their own candidates and identifying what are their weaknesses. that stuff was stolen by the russians and then was given to the republican lobbyists, for example, in florida, who then put it out on his blog. and it sort of then began to play a role in the race itself. yeah. this guy, this lobbyist, goes by the name hello fla, hello florida. what were those
i mean, is this potentially illegal? it could be. everything ana is fact specific in the law. so if that candidate for congress knew that gucifer 2.0 had stolen information and requested that stolen information and then further transmitted it in the course of his or her campaign, that could be interstate transportation of stolen property, receiving stolen property, aiding and abetting. so, sure, those things are potentially criminal. but as i said at the outset it s very fact specific and we need to know what did the individuals communicating with gucifer 2.0 know about the contents of what gucifer had? whether stolen or not. thank you very much. we always appreciate you joining us. so now knowing what we know about russia s election meddling, what does president trump say when he sits down with putin? let s talk with over ann apple
he does not have to know that the russians that gucifer was a russian agent to have criminal liability for these cases. what s alleged in this case is illegal access, hacking to a computer and stealing information worth more than $5,000. that is irregardless whether the person is roam yanen russian or whomever ever. the fact i participates is criminal liability. okay. very interestingly is i think the $5,000 allegation there is also another charge of receiving stolen property worth over $5,000 that a lot of the people could be liable for as well. liam brennan, liz holstman thank you for weighing in. i appreciate that. copping up next we talk about the timing of the indictment announcement and what that could mean for the tone of monday s meeting between the president and vladimir putin. (vo) why are subaru outback owners always smiling? because they ve chosen the industry leader. subaru outback holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class, according to alg. be
layer that clearly prosecutors and investigators have a time line and know that this statement was made right before that occurred. what do you, liz, think that mueller could be setting the stanl for when he uses the language he used to describe this incident on july 27? is he sending a message to the president? oh, yeah, i think he is sending a message to the president, also a message to roger stone. roger stone also encouraged the russians. he said when gucifer was resntsed rodger stone sends him a devote saying glad to see you become. he responds gucifer s questions to him. we know president trump went out there after all of the stolen information was put out by wickwic wikileaks. i said i love wikileaks. the president of the united states knows that stolen information, stolen from the democratic national committee