It is we are look at 2019 to get back to the rate where we were before the great recession and i don t think families can wait that long. neil: do you think the answer is more government jobs? guest: this gives them a job immediately, whether rebuilding bridges. neil: but the earmarks . a lot of pensions go back including stimulus checks that go to ex-cons or dead people, so there are a lot of cracks. guest: we have a can-do spirit in this country. we can put people back to work. people want to go to work. poll after poll shows that job creation is the number one thing. neil: people want the government off their back or taxes or regular regulations
Out-of-control. the supreme court ultimately will have to make the decision whether or not the insurance provision is constitutional but in the meantime, you will see the haves and the have nots, the companies that can afford to go through the waiver process and the companies that do not have the power to do so. neil: but it is not permanent waiver, right, but where they adjust to it, so it is not as if they opt out of the law. guest: absolutely not a prime permanent waiver but it will be looked at annually until 2014 so the early bird here, mcdonald s was early. and labor unions came early. it is going to get bigger before it ends. and chances are we will be looking at decisions from the appellate courts and to the supreme court around the time it is supposed to right itself. neil: but it will all end in the supreme court one way or the
More money than they knew what to do with before they shut down and they handed it out, and some are eye popping numbers, and some were already earning six-figure incomes. what do you think? guest: most of us in the private sector did not get bonuses this year. it is absolutely an outrage and every red blooded tax-paying american who has paid a bill ought to stand on their sofa and cream screaming about this. this is what we have been talking about for two years. but they are saying some of these guys, look, this was money that was earmarked, bad word, for the offices anyway, if not spent, it is gone, so they gave it to the people for whom it was probably intended. what do you say? guest: it belongs to the taxpayers, and it was never their money to give away. neil: so they gave it away
neil: some say you are overcreating this crisis, and the notes and bonds and the iou s will be made good. guest: after 2037 it is dicey. we are cash negative today by $45 billion. neil: a lot of this comes when we are redebating the same old arguments. right now on earmarks there are small numbers in the scheme of things $16 billion. there are reports this morning, guys, that senator inhofe has john mccain on board language that endorses a proposal to let home state projects if they are authorized by senate committees, a way around earmarks without calling them earmarks. guest: they can do a ballet dance if they want but they won t get nip.
When you go for the chunk to take away completely collective bargaining, people died for that. the copper barons in montana, the great union song i dreamed i saw joe hill last night, i can sing that song, it s . neil: that is too far? guest: no need to have them hung up on that when they are ready to give up things. guest: i agree i come from a right-to-work state but that is too far. people have earned collective bargaining rights should be able to keep them but we need to bring down the pay because we cannot afford it. we made promises we cannot keep. neil: that is just for starters. much more with erskine bowles and alan simpson. if you don t want to take flak, don t be a leader, be a