We will start by asking you how you came to write the book and then step back to talk about the frame and what you cover then get back into news feed assumptions you make in the of booking and your title is forcing the spring inside the fight for Marriage Equality to get inside that part you fully embedded yourself with the team, activists and lawyers from proposition viii which is the constitutional amendment that took away mayor rich writes for samesex couples in california. How did this come to pass . You said you were interested because you reported on of coming out in favor of Marriage Equality which it was published three months after the lawsuit was filed purpleheart did you make the first call . Guest yes. I picked up the paper i saw a opposing cancels and litigation filed the lawsuit. I had known both men and i cover them and i thought whenever the story is of how this conservative icon ted olson came to embrace this house to be a fascinating story. I was in between investigat
The spring but the first title is inside the fight for Marriage Equality. They challenged the proposition which is of course the amendment that took away the marriage rights for the samesex couples. Im interested in how this came to pass. Use at the end that you got interested in the story because you interview with ted olson and reported on his running out in favor of Marriage Equality so im curious to did you make the first phone call to the team to cover the story . Guest i did. I picked up the title that followed a lawsuit and i thought whatever the story is its got to be a fascinating story so i was in between the investigators projects and i picked up the phone and called its not investigative. I do these but i am just really fascinated by this and im the only person he would talk to at the New York Times. Host did you make the first call about writing about . Guest i called chad griffin in the foundation to form the lawsuit and i said i always knew that i would know what the rig
Host its wonderful to be here today. We have so much to talk about so before we get started i thought it would be useful to share with people our format which is that i want to start a little bit by asking you about how you came to write the book and the experience of being embedded in and step back and talk about the frame of the book and what youre covering here and get back to the particular assertions you make in the book. You talk about. The book is called forcing the spring with the subtitle inside the fight for Marriage Equality and to get inside this fight as you say to fully embedded yourself with the team the activists and the lawyers and plaintiffs who challengechallenged californias proposition 8 which was the course the constitutional amendment that took away the marriage rights for samesex couples in california. For starters im interested in how this came to pass. He said at the end of the book you got interested in the story because you interviewed ted olson and reported
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I thought before we dug into some of the decisions, that we could talk about the court itself. Since 2005, the then considerable turnover with justices. I was one if you could give us a thumbnail sketch of the new one. Sure. Obviously, the first one who we talk about as adequate as chief Justice Roberts, who was appointed by president george w. Bush. He was initially nominated to replace sandra day oconnor. While that nomination was pending the chief justice passed away and roberts was renominated for the rehnquist position. And that meant there had to be new nominees for the oconnor position, and samuel alito was nominated for that. They essentially arrived at the court at the same time to think that maybe in a month of overl overlap. And theyre both quite conservative coming out of the reaganbush era justice departments, and then later justices stevens and souter retired, and they were replaced by Justice Sotomayor, president obama appointed her the first hispanic american on the Sup