governor that does it for us this evening, we will see you again tomorrow it s time for the last wor with lawrence o donnell. good evening, lawrence good evening, i hope my friend roberto clemente in los angeles is watching to kno that his cousin, the book abou his cousin, roberto clemente i back on the shelf. where it belongs, exactly thank you, alex mike pence will never be president, but he will be witness against donald trump mike pence has decided not t appeal a judges order forcin him to testify to specia prosecutor jack smith investigation with donald trum leading up to and on january 6th. mike pence has already tol much of that story for money in a lifeless book, that h wrote titled so help me god. mike pence appears to have tol his story to other authors like possibly bob woodward, ro acosta, as an unnamed source for their books about the fina days of the trump white house. and now mike pence will testif under oath to jack smith s grand jury about every singl
he s the professor of practice at nyu law school. also is neil catchall, actin solicitor general. both msnbc legal analysts. andrew, i want to begin with the last point that i mentioned, and tie it back to the first point. there s a report of grange testimony about donald trump asking about seizing votin machines there is also the fact that we now know mike pence is going t testify to the grand jury. it seems that the penc testimony could be a lot mor important than this voting machine testimony, depending o what that testimony is if it is donald trump asking can we seize voting machines and he s told that you can t no matter how much yelling i involved, there might not be any crime in asking those kind of questions, compared to what donald trump was asking th vice president to do yes, so i agree with yo