information that somehow shows that donald trump did not do, what they are accusing him of having done, and then information has to be turned over to defense attorneys. you are not going to necessarily put that as the centerpiece of your prosecution. however, if you do feel like this testimony from either, or both, of those witnesses that is going to bolster the narrative that your theory of the case it is possible that you could see them both take the stand. it is not clear right now, alex, but it just depends on what information they have that we don t regarding this investigation. and what they told that grand jury. they always have information we don t. that is for sure. let me pivot here to the other big story, charles. it is the doj s blistering response to trump s request to delay his classified documents trial until after the 2024 election. jack smith s team writing, quote, a speedy trial is a foundational requirement of the constitution and the united states code. not a go
trial date, quote, borders on frivolous. jack smith knocks down every argument the trump lawyers make for an indefinite delay. on page two, jack smith says, quote, the defendants tried the government for seeking an expedited trial, but in doing so they have it exactly backward. a speedy trial is a foundational requirement of the constitution and the united states code, not a government preference that must be justified. jack smith says, that the trump lawyers are wrong to claim that the case involves complex new legal issues. on page three, jack smith says, they should not be permitted to gesture and a baseless legal argument, call it novel, and then claim that the court will require an indefinite continuous in order to resolve it. one aspect of the request for more time by trump lawyers that
prosecutor andrew weissmann glenn kirschner because we need their expertise to discuss what would normally be a routine filing in a criminal case which special prosecutor jack smith used this afternoon to hit back hard against donald trump s criminal defense lawyers. the ten-page ruling followed by a signature page with jack smith s name at the top says that donald trump s request for an indefinite continuance for a trial date, quote, borders on frivolous. jack smith knocks down every argument the trump lawyers make for an indefinite delay. on page two, jack smith says, quote, the defendants tried the government for seeking an expedited trial, but in doing so they have it exactly backward. a speedy trial is a foundational requirement of the constitution and the united states code, not a government preference that must be justified. jack smith says that the trump
the argument bull, writing in argument, there is no basis in law or fact for preceding in an indeterminate and open-ended fashion, and the defendants provide none. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. the special counsel is saying, no, we want to do this in december. that s right. they re saying that the notion of a speedy trial is not just some government preference. it s a foundational principle of the american judicial system. the trump team is acting like it s an imposition. it s in the interest of the american people to get a speedy trial. the excerpt that you had on the screen there also has the prosecution attacking and i found this very interesting, what has been trump s central defense in this case. which is that somehow the presidential records act makes these charges go away. or absolve some of criminal conduct here. what they have said is that is so outside the norm. they call it baseless, borderline frivolous, and they say they
those are obviously likely questions the grand jury had for jared kushner. a notable development to hear that jared kushner and hope hicks have gone before the january 6th grand jury. potential little very very significant. paula, in the classified documents case that s under investigation, the special counsel s team just weighed in on trump s request to indefinitely postpone his trial. and it s quite fiery, i must say, if you read it. break it down for us. reporter: fiery indeed, wolf. the central dispute here is when this case should go to trial. jack smith, the special counsel said he would like to take this case before a jury in december. the trump team said it s premature to event put a date on the calendar. in this new filing, the special counsel takes aim at the arguments the trump team has made about why this should be delayed. they go on to emphasize that a speedy trial is a foundational requirement of the constitution and not a government preference