and conspiracy, he s doing that for a couple of reasons. one it s a continuation what we now know is an intensified attack on the intelligence community and the fbi. the president has gone into fight mode, and we ve seen that quite clearly with some of the statements he s made lately. the president also knows any narrative is living breathing entity. and he has to feed that narrative if people are going to continue to buy into it and believe it. so i think he s aware of that with regard to those on his base and also with the investigation, he s changing his strategy. there was a time he was subtle on attacking the process the fbi and the intelligence community is going through. but that s become very direct now. this particular individual, unfortunately, is a victim of president. and if he s got mueller, if he s got other individuals who are part of this investigation, he has no problem adding another
defense just in case michael cohen does flip. you talk about the pressure people are under. what s your sense of the particular pressure being exerted upon michael cohen, as we learn more about the records he kept, the role he played. now that a number of days have passed since the raids on his suite at the regency and his office space as well. he s under extreme legal pressure right now. he has a pending criminal federal investigation in the southern district of new york. he s got the civil suit with stormy daniels pending and he s got mueller right over his shoulder. he s been very vocal and very clear about his role in trump s life, that he is the fixer. he would take a bullet for trump. so these comments are now coming back up and things that he might have done the stormy daniels issue has pretty much catapulted him into the limelight and has now focused in on what business dealings he s had with trump and his entire corporation.
and got mueller to this is many man who cost facebook more than money than any other. and now is a crucial white house witness. so wiley is not just in the eye of this storm, he s in the eye of a storm of his own making. and before he goes face-to-face with these secretive u.s. investigators, it sure would be fascinating, probably useful for us all to hear more of his account in public and that s what we re going to do right now, as he joins the beat from london. i m jo i m joined by the cambridge analytica whistle blower, he was the founder of the company, he did leave in 2014. thank you for joining me. let me ask you, as you know, several trump aides including manafort and gates were indicted on the foreign lobbying laws
adam schiff. now there s discussion from nunes that the state department s pulled into this too? where does it end? we ll see more and more of these, you know, this investigation growing more and more partisan, what s unusual as said earlier, the house intelligence committee is one of the pockets of congress that still was very bipartisan, and just for a 30,000 foot view, this is another instance of the republican party or area of congress that used to work well together, just becoming more and more polarized. final thoughts, where is the red line here, right? you have, for example, senator harris this morning saying, based on conversation with colleagues on both sides of the aisle, the president getting rid of rob mueller a red line, what about rosenstein? what is the line republicans say enough is enough? it s hard to know. here s the thing, right, the president fired jim comey and got mueller. it s not working to fire people
going on, more information about the problems with their investigation. bret: the president seemed pretty adamant that he s not going to fire mueller. but also saying he has concerns about these emails from the trump transition were obtained. i think that is what the white house is doing. i don t think this is a prelude to firing mueller. there are republicans who say that would be a boneheaded mistake. he fired comey and got mueller. just like the judge said come he might get another tormentor. what i do think the white house is doing is trying to discredit mueller and lay the groundwork for undermining whatever conclusions mueller might come to if they are negative for donald trump. if he exonerates him, they better hope mueller has some credibility left. i am astonished about how mueller s team, you would think they would be overly sensitive, overly careful to being above reproach in the way they conducted this investigation.