data. it was all part of what the post described as a quote, secretive multi-state effort to access voting equipment that was broader and more organized and more successful than previously reported and one that was discussed in the oval office. cnn reporting, quote, coffee county was specifically cited in draft executive orders for seizing vote machines and presented to donald trump on december 18th, 2020, during a chaotic oval office meeting. during same meeting, giuliani alluded to a plan to gain, quote volunteer access to machines in georgia. according to testimony from him and others before the house january 6 select committee. we re back with harry and andrew. i think glenn kirshner is coming in a few minutes as well. but this makes me think of chris krebs being fired. this makes me think of all of the efforts that we learned about through the congressional
trump and the others who orchestrated and incited the insurrection, so i guess it wasn t criminal. that s why, you know, today is such a big day for the rule of law. there has been no case with this kind of profile. there has been no case that is this consequential to the health, and i would say the vitality and even the viability of our democracy than this case. win, lose or draw, in my opinion, these charges had to be brought. willie geist, such brilliant insights there. one of the things i love about doing this show, willie, so much is, you know, the breadth of knowledge and the variety of guests that we have here. like, let s look at right now donny deutsch, for instance, and glenn, right? two separate lives right here. let me tell you something. if i m involved hold on. if i m involved in a complex
attention as a nation? i mean, we have such a short attention span it seems in this country. i was thinking about this last night. i mean, you listen to people like glenn kirshner, and you have this analysis of the law. it is an education, listening to them. but how long do we pay attention to that? 50 years ago this week, bob holderman, former chief of staff to richard m. nixon, appeared before the watergate committee, led by sam irvin. it was nationally televised. the nation was glued to the hearings. they paid attention to those hearings, each and every day. the hearings made an incredible impact on the country, politically and culturally. the question i have now for you, glenn kirshner, is, do you think the trial, the upcoming trial of the president of the united
white collar crime case that s going to put me in jail for years, i m going to the left side of the screen. if i want to know where to get the best pimm s cup, the old-fashioned in the hamptons, i m going to donny deutsch right there. yeah. he ll help with that. two men, two gifted, talented men, living two completely separate lives. separate lives. glenn, may i say, congratulations, you win. [ laughter ] wow. thank you, joe. i just don t get it. i don t know, donny. is there a changing table behind you? what are you talking about? mike pence we re not letting donny defend himself? i don t want to hear it. wow. former vice president mike pence yesterday gave one of his strongest criticisms yet of donald trump, both while on the
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