administration putting sanctions on him and calling him an active russian agent for over a decade. this is not the biden folks came in and cleaned house. this was in september 2020 under the trump administration. betsy, one thought i had when the read the times piece that ken is one of the reporters on was, like, yeah, i feel like i watched them do this in front of all of our faces. like, tons of ukrainians popping up all over the place for two years. i knew, like, two dozen ukrainian operatives names i wouldn t have any reason to know but for the fact that they were clearly trying to interfere in politics. the united states government has done everything short of jumping up and down and lighting its hair on fire to say he was a russian agent. he literally went to kgb school in moscow. the intelligence community did something which is literally unprecedented.
district investigation into rudy giuliani himself? it s a bit of a puzzle as to why it s not being handled by the same prosecutors who ve been investigating giuliani because it s overlap between the investigations, including the same cast of ukrainian characters, the sort of central character of which is in guy, andre dur catch who was branded by an active russian agent for more than a decade. and so what we think they re looking at here is we know they re looking at the effort of dur catch and some of his associates to sort of funnel this information into the political discourse intended to damage joe biden and help donald trump. what crimes may be in play, what
got longer, citing people with knowledge of the matter, the new york times reports federal prosecutors in brooklyn are investigating whether several ukrainian officials orchestrated a plan to medal in the 2020 presidential campaign, including using rudy giuliani to spread their misleading claims about president biden and tilt the election in donald trump s favor. the investigation started in the last months of the trump administration and it is separate to the manhattan federal criminal probe into giuliani and ukraine. the times says giuliani is not a subject of the brooklyn investigation but that investigators are focusing on at least one ukrainian official who met with giuliani in ukraine in 2019. betsy swan of politico has been covering giuliani in ukraine for years. kevin, what can you tell us about this investigation and why it s in the eastern district, and why it appears to be separate from the southern
the justice department would now be on the same page as the treasury department and the intelligence community and lord knows how many other alphabet soup u.s. agencies that have been watching this guy is & saying, good lord. do you have a sense of how advanced things are in that eastern district investigation? well, betsy reported a guy who helped set up rudy giuliani s meeting, another ukrainian, former parliamentarian set up giuliani s neegt kiev with andre derkach, i can reveal that andre teleschengen coe, another andre has also talked to the fbi though it s unclear if that was part of the investigation, you