i m trying to understand yeah. was it a quid pro quo? how often did you talk to them? did they come to your office, did you go to them? i think maybe once a month they would drop by, we would spend an hour. it would always start with me listening. i would say what are you trying to solve, what are your concerns, what are you trying to get done? and i have done this with many, many clients. it s not at all unusual for us to have folks to come in and say this is what we are trying to get done, this is how we are trying to solve a wide range of problems. many of them involved health. as you know, we founded out of gingrich group we founded the center for health transformation and we ended up publishing books and we ended one a whole range of things. i m proud of what we have done. i helped run four small businesses during the period when i was out of office before i ran for president. i have a pretty good idea what it is like to be a business person and to meet a payroll and to fi
aides. he said it was the gingrich group. there were people working with him. they go there and say newt thinks this and newt thinks that. again, it is just so clear. and this effort to blame us. the republicans were in charge. newt gingrich for four years as speaker and then for eight years after that the people he helped put into leadership. they were the ones who had control over whether or not there was any regulation of fannie mae and freddie mac. we know when people said it should have been regulated i was originally wrong on that. i came around by 2004 but it was 2006 a couple years after i was trying to get them regular latded that newt was getting close to $2 million or over a million and a half and the notion that he was getting it for advice simply, if that s the case the shareholders should have sued for corporate waste. he wasn t out there writing op-ed pieces or giving speeches about the need for reform of freddie mac. he says that s what he was thinking. no. it was a
was like a year before. there are some sports 18 staffers have rejoined your campaign, including six in the state of iowa. things are looking really good right now. of course, that means, of course, now the tough scrutiny, which brings me to another issuism want you to explain it because i don t fully understand it. freddie mac and fannie mae, you gingrich productions or gingrich group, rather, received a significant amount of money from fannie mae and freddie mac. tell me, first of all, how much money was it? well, i m not sure of the exact amount, but the reports are it s about a million six. we are trying to work that out. i don t have the numbers in the campaign because i m no longer at gingrich group. only from freddie mac, i never got anything from fannie mae. it was over a number of years. started in 99 and went into 2007 or 2008. we are trying to pull that
together. i think we will have that information probably by tomorrow but we ve asked the people at the center for transformation that one gingrich group to pull it all together. it s money paid out over a period of time. gingrich group has had as many as 30 employees at any one time. we ve had office necessary atlanta, where the headquarters are in washington and in st. louis, missouri. it has with the center of transformation it acquired a very large number of members. i i think the freddie mac payments were relatively a small percentage of the total income of gingrich group over the last ten or eleven years. and i ve run a business and i know you have to pay overhead and rent, and the money sometimes looks very different what you end up with in your pocket as to what goes into the group. now, in spite of that, i m trying to understand this. was the contract during the time of 2007 when we went into a tailspin in the housing market,
leadership with him. tom delay. the leaders of the committee. so you know these people. secondly, you don t have to come and stand in the hall to talk to people. you can call them up. you can meet them at other events. there are all sorts of meetings that people have. it doesn t mean you stand outside the door. but you give people advice on how to deal with these individuals and you talk to them. it is inconceivable there weren t conversations between bill clinton and his aides. he said it was the gingrich group. there were people working with him. they say, gee, newt thinks this and thinks that. again, it s just so clear. and this effort to blame us, the republicans were in charge. newt gingrich for four years as speaker and for eight years after that the people he helped put into leadership. they were the ones who had control over whether or not there was any regulation of fannie mae and freddie mac.