75 to 80 more people. that could have been 75 to 80 people in the united states, but because we couldn t get the talent brought in with that visa, we lose out on that and that business goes overseas. we are forcing outsourcing with our own policies and it doesn t make sense. congressman grimm, appreciate your time. you re very welcome. to our strategist, analyst joe watkins, former aid to george hw bush white house. bill, what needs to come out of the debate for mitt romney and rick perry? i think this will be the most exciting debate of all the republican debates so far. i expect to see some fireworks tonight. you can t just limit it to those two. rick santorum is going to try to get in the game, michele bachmann will try to get back in the game, and herman cain has to