so temporarily, and we had the exactly the same thing happened because of snowden s revelations where, you know, i m shocked. they re spying here, and it was revealed that the us, uh, spies on both foes and friends. well everybody does that nations behave and conduct such activities when it is in their national interests. now, in my case, i had some pretty tough meetings with counterparts and they meted aftermath. of the snowden revelations, but most nations who deal with us in the intelligence realm realize how important that relationship is, and we ll get by the temporary setback and get on with business. so yeah, it s temporarily on the temporary basis. it s awkward, embarrassing hard to deal with, but over the long term i don t think it s going to do a lot of damage. we shall see james clapper. thank you very, very much. coming up a new move by the united states and in
issue that has been animating for the republican party for more than a couple of decades. certainly has been alright guys. thank you very, very much just ahead how much damage was done by the stunning leak. of classified pentagon documents revealing intelligence on ukraine and much, much more. the former director of us national intelligence, james clapper will share his insights that s coming up and we continue to follow the breaking news out of nashville right now. democrats justin jones reinstated only moments ago. stay with us. this is electric p powered by lexus. the first ever all electric cars. what circle. first of all, it s a beautiful, shape, connected, consistent community . it s meant to be inclusive local. we build us dc digital
is emblematic of the situation he faces. and the lack of will to fight. and all he s going to do is generate more cannon fodder for the ukrainians. so it s not going to have any impact. but this is illustrative, when you consider where he was seven months ago, where he thought this would be a romp, and now he s having to do a partial mobilization and quickly stage these sham referenda and try to intimidate the west with the threat of nuclear weapons, i think are indicative he s in a bad place and he knows it. and he sees these demonstrations on the streets of moscow at the same time. james clapper, thank you so much for joining us. coming up, a cnn exclusive report. donald trump s secret court fight to block a grand jury from talking to his inner circle about attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. plus, the u.s. could be in line for its first major
movements toward deploying nuclear missiles, actually using them. but obviously when a nuclear power like russia makes a threat like this, on some level you have to take it seriously. you have to plan for it. and that s what vladimir putin is hoping for, of course. matthew chance reporting for us. thank you very much. let s discuss all of this and more with the former director of national intelligence, the cnn national security analyst, retired general james clapper. general, thank you so much for joining us. how do you predict russia could use these phony referendums in ukraine to escalate this war? well, wolf, i think, first of all, we ll all be sitting on the edges of our seats awaiting the results of these referendums next tuesday. and of course the concern is the connection of these referendums with putin s statements implying
complexity to the calculus, whatever it is, that putin has. when you look, general clapper, at all these drastic moves by putin in recent days, the massive mobilization, the crackdown on protesters, the nuclear threats, the sham referendums, what does it all say to you about his mind-set right now? well, i think well, he s in trouble and i think he knows it. i think his options are declining, the mobilization is not going to change the outcome of the combat situation at all. the images, the two images of demonstrators opposing it, which is a brave thing to do in russia these days, and the image of vehicles lined up at the borders, from finland to kazakhstan, people fleeing to avoid the mobilization, i think