breaking news. cnn learning that there is a fire at a nuclear power plant in ukraine. it is the one that is attacked by russian troops. it is a plant in south central ukraine. just heard me talk about it with general clapper. it is one of the largest in all of europe. there is a fire there now. mayor of the town there posting a message on facebook that reads and i quote him, a threat to world security as a result of relentless shelling by the enemy of the buildings and blocks of largest nuclear power plant in europe the nuclear power plant is on fire. if you just heard, general clapper saying that any accident at this plant would be, in his view, two times bigger than chernobyl if it were serious. much higher radiation. again, we know nothing about what this fire actually is. but obviously, it is a very
not just the latest episode but in general. stephen hadley, george w. bush s former national security told me it was a mistake for the bush administration to not impose sanctions on russia after russia took parts of georgia. general clapper told the other day he wish the the obama administration had been more aggressive in 2014 when putin seized crimea. are we doing to have another interview in five or six years of somebody from the biden administration saying, yeah, we did some tough sanctions but wish we had done everything. i wish we had thrown at him? it appears not. you raise a good question. come back in a year or two or three to put it at the test. you see the are manhattanzation of the united states government that somehow hope that putin would come into the west or not be a bad actor. that s over. you hear bully, empire, aggressor, war, sinister, pariah. those words from the president
people that are telling some of his ideas are bad. he s surrounded by sycophants that are yemen so he s not getting opposing opinions or opposing views, so i think we need to we need as the united states, we need the worst case of this and do what we can to reinforce nato and start those sanctions, turn them on right away pause they won t take effect in the next few days. but he knows i was going to say, general clapper, sorry for interrupting. he knows, putin, if he were to attack one nato country, he s attacking all 30 nato countries. they are all committed to responding. that s correct, and this may not take the form of an overt invasion. there are other as we ve seen. there are other forms of attack
show up, however you can, for the foster kids who need it most at helpfosterchildren.com another ominous development. additional ukrainian government websites are now down, at least eight including the foreign minister s website. joining us now retired air force lieutenant general james clapper, author of facts and fears, hard truths from a life of intelligence. also with us steve hall. director clapper, i wonder what you make of the white house saying putin is supposedly improvising and adapting his plans after the u.s. made so
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