who cares? i want to begin with our big story. the return of janet mock who wrote about her life as a transgender woman in the book redefining realness, my path to womanhood, identity love and so much more. janet rejoins me now. i brought you back on the show. cards on the table. i have spent an infuriating 24 hours. and i want you to explain why i ve had to go through this. because let me start from this premise. i have always been 100% supportive of all gay rights, gay marriage rights, transgender rights. in fact, i want equality for everyone. in america and around the world. that s always been my position. anyone that watches this show knows that s exactly what i ve always stood for. i had you on the show. you wrote a powerful book. i did nothing but laud your courage. i said you were a fantastic person to be out there center stage, selling the message that there s no need to stigmatize transgender people. i called you a woman throughout the interview. i never disputed the fact
who cares? we ll get to the seinfeld story in a moment. but i want to begin with janet mock. she wrote about her life as a transgender woman in the book redefining realness, my path to womanhood, identity, love and so much more. janet rejoins me now. i brought you back on the show. cards on the table. i have spent an infuriating 24 hours. and i want you to explain why i ve had to go through this. because let me start from this premise. i have always been 100% supportive of all gay rights, gay marriage rights, transgender rights. in fact, i want equality for everyone. in america and around the world. that s always been my position. anyone that watches this show knows that s exactly what i ve always stood for. i had you on the show. you wrote a powerful book. i did nothing but laud your courage. i said you were a fantastic person to be out there center stage, selling the message that there s no need to stigmatize transgender people.
do? yes. i m a conservative on this. i don t think these changes should come about all at once. i think that a process in which this can be thought ability. and i believe in this country different states can pursue different solutions. we have to take a break. when we come back, chris kluwe says he is paying for speak out about gay marriage rights. he has been fired from the team. he says he was fired because three of his bosses, two were cowards and one was a bigot. liz cheney is ending her senate run. a lot more ahead. [ male announcer ] what if a small company became big business overnight? like, really big. then expanded? or their new product tanked?
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religion has its own rules. religion does not have to recognize same-sex marriage. do you fight the fight within your own, even though you re defrocked or find a new community that is accepting of what you now believe. laws change in the church, too. doctrine does change. at one point in our discipline we had stipulations that supported slavery or were against ordaining women in the ministry. now we have women as pastors, even bishops. my own bishop is peggy johnson. so i would lake to stay within the methodist church if given a chance to work for change. i always tell people the example if you live in a state as a homosexual person that does not have gay marriage rights, don t move out of your state to another state where it s allowed. you don t leave your family, your job, your house, your career, your friends. you try to work for change from within. that s what i m trying to do within my church.