taxpayers for that and why are we paying for this, especially when we don t have the money to pay for this, gary? neil, it s a darn good question. it comes down to three words, enough is enough. we should get some sort of return on our investment. hundreds of millions of dollars going that way. and by the way, a lot of that money we don t know where it went and a lot of it s been lost and been picked up by who knows what. it really has to stop and we need it take it all back and make them earn our dollars, that by the way, we don t have right now and just being conjured up by the fed anyhow. neil: now what, dagen, i know the argument you want to keep the moderates in place, but they re a minority and i don t necessarily want to buy their love, but certainly not going to put a deposit down on their hatred. it s a tough situation, the vast majority of aid to egypt in resents years, more than a billion and a half every year and the second biggest recipient of aid from the u.s. since
else? okay. you think about that (laughter) stop me, stop me. charlie graasperino, and gary, what do you think about that? you think about the republican side, six months to keep it going so the government doesn t shut down. in so doing that, you increase spending. i don t blame the freshmen, i blame the leadership, it comes from the top down and neil, there s no grape fruits in washington d.c. i go back to one simple number. in 08, 2.8 trillion federal spending, 3.7 trillion next year, the baseline budgeting where it always goes up and continues. remember, paul ryan is no freshman and he came out with a budget plan with would lower the rate of spending, and guess what, they shut him down and shut him up. neil: and lower the rate of increase in spending. and by the way he voted for this sort of what do you call continuing resolution. just for six months, but what a photo op at that was, paul ryan showing up, and he s
the can will always get kicked down the road. it s a plausible argument. yeah, because it s proof of do you have any proof of otherwise, adam. are you kidding? and they will to address this in some way in january. we know that. because of the fiscal cliff. maybe they d kick the can down the road again, but where i also agree with charlie, with unemployment as high as it is, this is no time to have why, why. and by the way, you want to start doing stuff, make a unemployment as high as it is. we have the bowles simpson plan, the ryan plan, where you do it in a concerted, one swoop effort. apparently gary k, is concerned about america, even though you re not. gary explain now thank you they re destroying the country. let me just say this, unemployment is as high as it is, deficits are sogh. not other way around. and. nothing to do with excuse me, are you kidding? these are like a cloud
the fight over student loans rates moving on. and to stop those from doubling and now the white house is issuing a veto warning and it wants the low rates and it doesn t like how this legislation pays from. but jonas, you say stop the nonsense because it s only going to drive tuitions higher? they re not dealing with a co-issue, when you make loans available at a low rate. it s great because you can go to school. that s what happens to housing i prices, you could afford more home and they could be more expensive. and the student loans and subsidized loans, the government should rather figure out ways to control the other and may be limited what type of school to go to. what the cost, and return, do you earn that kind of money when you come out of that school. there s no control, here is a low rate, go wherever you want. brenda: gary, is this going to cause another bubble by artificially keeping interest
people respond to that. first of all, gary k. well, first off you mention the auto workers toss the auto workers toss that point. it s the unions na basically destroyed gm with the costs and legacy costs out there. the big issue when these things become blobbish, a new word i made up, that s when trouble comes. i don t worry about these things on a smaller scale, but once they get into a larger scale, that s where destruction happens and mandates from unions to the business, i d rather business controls. you have ten seconds, gary b to talk about blobhe bsh. i thought he was saying bloggish. but blobbish, i ll give gary k that. the bottom line, unions are bad, more unions are badder, that s a take away. brenda: another made up word. okay, i like it. neil called it. now a nonpartisan group is confirming it that mediscare attack is it the biggest lie