foreign policy as well as anybody. we re getting some news that the libyan foreign minister has shown up in london and defected from gadhafi. explain who this guy is. and why it s so important. moussa koussa was the man that basically negotiated libya s way back into the mainstream of the world. after they gave up the nuclear weapons programs in 2003, after they settled the pan am case, he was the one that basically arranged for libya to be reintegrated. that s how come the united states opened up diplomatic relations with libya again. if he has defected, and there have been reports for days that he was thinking about it, then that is the further isolation of gadhafi, and also mean that gadhafi doesn t have at hand somebody who the u.s. and others feel they can talk to. interesting. david sanger of new york times, major garrett of the national journal, thank you both. a lot of stuff to work on.
numbers, and that will be a tough vote for democrats as well as for republicans. david sanger, you cover foreign policy as well as anybody. we re getting some news that the libyan foreign minister has shown up in london and deeffected from gadhafi. explain who this guy is. moussa koussa was the man that basically negotiated libya s way back into the mainstream of the world. after they gave up the nuclear weapons programs in 2003, after they settled the pan am case, he was the one that basically arranged for libya to be reintegrated. that s how come the united states reopened negotiations with libya. there have been reports for days that he was thinking about it, then that is the further isolation of gadhafi, and also
anybody. we re getting some news that the libyan foreign minister has shown up in london and defected from gadhafi. explain who this guy is. and why it s so important. moussa koussa was the man that basically negotiated libya s way back into the mainstream of the world. after they gave up the nuclear weapons programs in 2003, after they settled the pan am case, he was the one that basically arranged for libya to be reintegrated. that s how come the united states opened up diplomatic relations with libya again. if he has defected, and there have been reports for days that he was thinking about it, then that is the further isolation of gadhafi, and also mean that gadhafi doesn t have at hand somebody who the u.s. and others feel they can talk to. interesting.
mean that gadhafi doesn t have at hand something who the u.s. and others feel they can talk to. interesting. david sanger of new york times, major garrett of the national journal, thank you both. a lot of stuff to work on. up next, what what s a surefire way of a member of congress to alienate its constituents in how about this? complain about your pay, your government taxpayer-funded pay. that s what one freshman did. you re watching hardball only on msnbc.
libya, we re not going to be for regime change, but you can t protect the people of libya without regime change. why are we there in the first place, because gadhafi was slaughtering his people. how can you leave him there? let s state the president s position, you got a big mess in iraq, you ve got a big mess in afghanistan. you have already vowed, i m going to get us out of this messes. then you have this huge uprising in the middle east and egypt goes relatively well, mubarak stands down after 18 or so days, gadhafi doesn t and it looks like he s about to commit atrocities. if you re president, what do you do is there? there is a good argument for the white house to have done exactly what they have done, which is not go all guns blazing, not commit america to a huge war again. the thing about obama, ask he doesn t seem like a president, he seems like a president candidate. his previous comments as a presidential candidate are