pistorius says it was a mistake. however the prosecutors tell a different story saying it was intentional. joining me, fred tecce, former federal prosecutor and diana ice man, a criminal defense attorney. diana, what do you make of oscar pistorius s attorney to have his story, you know, take the stand and testify on his own behalf in this murder trial? good idea or bad? great idea, absolutely necessary. he has to get out his state of mind. he was the only other person there. so he has to take the stand and tell his version of the facts. he haste been testifying this entire time. julie: well he has, behind the scenes. he has claimed it was an accident and many don t buy that story, fred. now like i just said in south african court when the defendant agrees to take the stand, such as pistorius he has to be the first witness there, unless they have an application approved by a judge and it has got to be approved by the court in order for order of testimony to switch around. can that mov
well, i mean certainly helps him. i don t think it will help him. julie: why, fred, why would it help his move? because what they re trying to do, they re trying to get someone to testify to undermined the prosecution s testimony that woman eden long before pistorius said. it was inconsistent with his story. under the primacy and latency they think that is the most damning fact. they know quite well that the prosecutor is chomping at the bit to examine him and because the physical evidence destroys him and didn t call police or ambulance first and called administrator and makes him throwing up in court look completely false. julie: diana, the reason for our viewers why pistorius won t be first, because they say the forensic pathologist will take the stand first because that person is not available to testify later in the trial. but nonetheless, if this is going to help the defense, why would a judge then rule in favor of the defense? well, i mean there is no
so much reasonable doubt in this case, so much time passed since this murder, someone is already serving time for this. this particular victim had so many enemies it is impossible to pin this particular defendant as the person responsible for this murder. julie: fred, the state had evidence that she basically married him for mon. she took out a $2 million life insurance policy. spent 400,000 of it to hire a hit man. is she murderer? yes. i will add, diana, good job, add her to the list of lawyers i got hauled out of bed in my pajamas by the fbi. good job but unfortunately no. the other guy committed murder, there is no evidence about it. the whole thing about the kill list was ridiculous. there is forensic evidence, computer evidence, communications with her and the hit man and she had all the motive in the world. i think the lady is going down like a sack of ham years fred tecce, diana, thank you both for joining us. very interesting. thanks for having me. enjoy your weekend.
grabs whatever was in her reach which was her shoe and starts to attack him with the shoe in self-defense. julie: fred, she said that he grew angry and jealous because when they were at a bar another man offered her to buy her a drink? does that hold water for the defense that he got angry and attacked? no. because it was inconsistent with the testimony of the cab driver. maybe that was true for the first 18 puncture wounds. but the other 25, taken out of self-defense. julie: turning on to the motto with nothing worse than a woman scourned here. i mean we re talking about pamela phillips, the socialite whose murder trial continues today. es spendingsly, diana a socialite accused killing, hiring a hit man to kill her ex-husband in 96 by blowing him up with a car bomb i should add. phillips never actually testified. she is charged charged with fire murder. the hit man she allegedly hired has been charged. will she be next? she doesn t have to testify. the fact of the matter there is
think the guy is guilty. jon: there were pretty incriminating text messages as too as well brought into evidence. exactly. jon: fred tecce, phil snyder. thank you both. thanks for having me. jenna: we ll continue to watch that case. meantime a powerful new pain killer is about to hit pharmacies. some critics are worried that it is so dangerous and so addictive there are calls to make it illegal in several i states. what is this all about? we have two doctors on this story you should know about. brand new polls on obamacare. the president s new health care law hitting rock bottom with americans. we ll break down the numbers just ahead. [ male announcer ] nearly 7 million clients. how did edward jones get so big? t me just put this away. could you teach our kids that trick? [ male announcer ] by not acting that way. it s how edward jones makes sense of investing.