because it really is very, very difficult to fix it but again i can raise another issue. everyone of these people are on notice and told this is issue. they better be wary. i usually grow to walmart because i can take my rv. but i went to target last couple weeks and i will watch this carefully. gregg: my wife loves tar target. i shop during this time. gregg: your rv, fred? you know what? i m a airplane-flying, rv-driving gregg: say no more, pal. say no more. i will stop you before you embarass yourself anymore. too late. too late. gregg: fred tecce, ashley merchant. good to see you. enjoy your weekend. thank you. good to see you. jenna: is he driving up to the studio in his rv like a whole different image of fred that we didn t know about? gregg: clint our producer says, he is blushing over that whole thing. he is little embarrassed he blurted that out. jenna: nice to know our guests.
damages, right? right. right. the damages could be immense and they re not something you can immediately figure out what they are. they could go on for years or years, like you said. 20 years down the line it could come back to bite you because you just don t know. they re taking this sensitive information and just because they haven t actually hacked your account or used it right now doesn t mean they couldn t use it in the future. you could be applaying for a mortgage and all of sudden get a credit report back that s negative and say, i didn t know about this. this is the first time i heard about this. gregg: yeah. so there really is future damage here. gregg: but class action against target you not only have to prove damages but you have to prove negligence and causation as well and for any plaintiff, that may be tiff, fred. right, exactly. and the cornerstone of a class-action lawsuit is every plaintiff is exactly the same. what ashley is talking about, and she s absolutely r
for the most part. that was unusual but but, fred, i know you were trying to get in? jenna: fred? when i was prosecutor, once i picked jury, that was it. there were no negotiations. we re going to verdict. that is prosecutor s decision. things go in the middle of trial, witnesses don t testify the way the prosecutor thinks they re going to. such a fluid situation that it is not unusual. interesting, different styles based on different lawyers. let me move on because i want to ask you guys about the other case. will carr gave background about the mount soledad cross in san diego. this has been a case as he mentioned has been developing over the last, almost been a decade. eight years at this point, fred. the judge s decision, let me read it for what it is right now. this is just the headline. the cross must be removed within 90 days. a decision that could result in the case being sent back to the u.s. supreme court but the judge also immediately stayed his order, pending an ex
this deal. why? first of all i think she was guilty of in the first degree and i think that is what the jury can come back to. because she took a plea, she can allocate. she can allocate cute and spin the story how they got in a fight. i don t think it was true. look, i m sure they conferred with the family. justice is served. the judge coon sentence her up to life in prison. i put my personal feelings aside. intellectually i think it is the right decision. jenna: fred mentioned the point i would ask you about is the sentence. what difference does this plea make? she still faces life in prison? now that she pled to second degree the judge can take that into account this was not a premeditated act that would go to whether he wants to enhance her sentence, to go higher, to vary her sentence, to go up over the sentencing guidelines or reduce it and go below the sentencing guidelines. more of a point of mitigation. the interesting part i found out
about this story was reading between the lines that the defense attorney made a comment in some of these reports that the government made this offer. so i m wondering if the government was concerned by reading the jury that they may not have gotten a conviction for first or second-degree murder. jenna: let me ask you on that. because as someone that worked as a defense attorney in cases like this how does this come about? i mean depending on who made the first offer, they re in the middle of this trial. have both side been talking? is that even allowed? or does suddenly this plea deal just come out of know where? well, we re not sure exactly what happened but normally people, lawyers talk all the time and so i have even been in cases where the prosecutor will push a note over to me in the middle of trial to see if there s a resolution to the case we can come out. sometimes i ve gone to the prosecutor look, i know the facts are really bad. what are you willing to offer my client. nego