enforcement. they need to enforce. when they see situations that are not working where people are hazing, drinking, they need to step in and they need to do the right thing. martha: they need to physically be in the fraternity houses while the process is happening. they need to watch these kids. they cannot be left alone in these situations, right, evelyn? they should have an adult present for all pledge activities. martha: no adult wants to be present for this. universities globally need to own these fraternities. universities have run away from their responsibility to own what goes on for their own students safety and welfare. that s the bigger problem. martha: evelyn, have you heard from any of these young men, any remorse shown on the part of any of them? not really. one supposedly broke down during the tape being shown in court.
and colin kaepernick oscars so white era. they want to be in a more comfortable environment. and then it s campus violence. why do i want to spend $60,000 a year to go on a campus where people are going to spray paint trump on my dorm, where they re going to deface black fraternity houses. who wants to spend all that money in a dorm named after a slave owner? there s a lot of things that have come to the forein the last two years. as we see polarization in society increase, particularly since the election of president trump, we see people sort of wanting to go where their comfort zone is and where they feel that they can more safely become educated and prepared for life, and where their families feel they re safer. right. right. well, i mean, perfect example of this, right. look, i m a college professor. when you go to college, you re going to get challenged. you re going to get to forced to explore new ideas and things you haven t seen before, but you
are they going to be standing in these fraternity houses or have a representative there during these pledging rights, also known as hazing? martha, that is the point. we don t know. the piazzas have asked for change. penn state has committed to change. change is needed throughout the country, and fraternity life and on campuses, where hazing underage drinking, and other abuses are out of control. the problem is, the devil is in the details. we don t have one detail on paper. we don t have one policy, one procedure, one regulation. any disciplinary rules actually put to paper. we there for therefore because of the resolution adopted by the penn state board of trustees literally says that the board of trustees authorizes it themselves and the president to get back to themselves to formulate an implementation of the policies. that is the difference that we
men, but far too many men engage in the kind of lewd conversation we had in that video. you ve heard this. i ve heard it firsthand. not just bragging about sex, but no. sexual assault? now there s a difference. to be sure, men don t sit around and brag about raping women. but they do talk about grabbing women s private parts and, you know, forcing a woman to kiss them. you know, that, too, qualifies as sexual assault. so, i think it s important to be sure that everyone understands sexual assault is not just one thing. and this doesn t just happen in locker rooms. it also happens in bars, in fraternity houses. sometimes even at kids birthday parties where the dads sort of sit off to the side and just rank order the moms and talk about, you know, which ones are hot, which ones are not, which
after that rape, the young woman shows up in an emergency room in middletown, connecticut, i was assaulted at the fraternity. it s to me outrageous the extent that our colleges and universities are complicit in the sexual assault of young women at these fraternity houses. why don t the schools just disassociate themselves from the fraternities and kick them off campus? right. well, the colleges and universities have much more to gain from the fraternities than the fraternities have to gain from the colleges and universities. one out of every eight college students living on campus lives in greek housing. that s a tremendous amount of housing stock the colleges don t have to pay for, don t have to supervise. you also have to remember, you tie alumni to your campus in a very powerful way when you have a fraternity system. alumni giving is a massive part