misconduct. what do you think it is in the case of franken? well, i think the franken case is really complicated. i have a column out now that says he should resign. and i don t say that really lightly or happily. and i see the argument against him resigning. i think is also very strong, right? this thing that he has accused is the wrong word. this thing that he did does not rise to the level of, you know, sexually assaulting 14-year-olds. doesn t rise to the level of what donald trump does. i still think that just having this even though it s a false equivalency, you know, kind of having now this thing hanging over the democrats, even though i think that al franken has been such a good senator, i thought he should run for president before this. but i just this idea of kind of slogging it out in an ethics investigation and then waiting to see what kind of penalty they re able to concoct. and also what kind of investigation. i mean, does the senate now do an investigation into his
standard is that if there is a credible charge of sexual abuse or harassment against somebody, if that can expel you from the senate, we could potentially have the biggest turnover in the senate we ve ever seen in the history of our country. that standard a lot of office holders will not be able to meet it. this is causing a lot of concern and chaos and something the country is going to have to deal with in the legacy of bill clinton. sandra: it is really interesting when you mention the standard, doug. what al franken s ethics probe would look like. if the franken case goes before the committee and makes it to a vote it will reveal what each senator on that committee believes what the standard is or should be. a very important time in history for this discussion. that s right, sandra. at the same time, in the franken case we do have
try to get her to go out with him. but, you know, if we come out against him, we might lose and end up looking bad. sabrina sadiqy and robert costa, great to have you both. thank you. your writing has been phenomenal, if you don t mind my saying. sabrina brought this up and this morning you saw in al franken, there is this question, is he going to resign. what is the we re figuring out what s the proper punishment for the particular crime or misconduct. what do you think it is in the case of franken? well, i think the franken case is really complicated. i have a column out now that says he should resign. and i don t say that really lightly or happily. and i see the argument against him resigning. i think is also very strong, right? this thing that he has accused is the wrong word. this thing that he did does not rise to the level of, you know, sexually assaulting 14-year-olds. doesn t rise to the level of
news day in d.c. minnesota democrat senator al franken apologizing after a woman accused him of kissing her and a photo shows him reaching over to grope her while she slept. roy moore, the republican senate candidate from alabama, accusing mitch mcconnell of hypocrisy for how he s dealing with the franken case. accusations of sexual misconduct of teen against moore. health republicans pass their tax plan. there s a rocky road ahead before any possibility of a tax law. but we ll have details on who would pay more and who would pay less. plus the white house briefing all at the top of the hour on sheperd smith reporting. see you then. sandra: the house passing the gop tax bill with the senate version still up in the air. but we do know some of the proposals, including a policy that would be historic if enacted. orrin hatch endorsing a plan that would include paid family
listen, al franken has acknowledged what he did was wrong and it was wrong. he has also submitted his whole case to the senate ethics committee. i think that was the right thing to do. do you think congressman conyers, you swit him on judiciary. should he resign. i think the ethics process should proceed. you know senator franken, you ve searched with him. what do you think should happen to him? should he resign? that s the question that will have to be determined after the investigation. the house ethics just this afternoon announced an investigation of john conyers. he needs to be held accountable for whatever happened. should he step down? let s wait and see what the house ethics committee does. your colleague, al franken has been accused. do you think he should resign? i think that that is a distraction to be talking about resignation. do you now think that your colleague conyers should resign from the house? no, i don t think the rules are different from anyo