russian government officials. so then, frank, why has he not been arrested? so a couple things. first, a fisa affidavit, you re actually saying to the court, this is a counterintelligence case. we re not looking at this criminally right now. we re doing this for intelligence-gathering purposes, wrapping up a cell, identifying intelligence officers methodology. secondly, you want to let that run, so you identify everyone. and lastly, there may be a strategy here, if they don t have the criminality yet on page, to hold off and indict and or if they do have criminal charges waiting, to indict americans after the russians in this collusion part have been charged. so the other shoe is going to drop here. but if carter page is telling the public that he doesn t get this affidavit, he s lying to us, as well. okay. let s get to what else i want to talk to you about which is stormy daniels attorney who as you know spoke this morning about michael cohen, about that secret recording of
its own. and the meddling in the election that led to the expulsion of russian diplomats and all of the international drama we have seen in the months since. alex? all right. kelly o., thank you so much from berkeley heights, new jersey. we ll check in with you again. meantime, joining me, frank figliuzi, a former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi. good to see you, as always, frank. very quickly, because we have a lot of things to get to here. regarding carter page, the president tweeting this morning, department of justice and fbi misled the courts, and the trump campaign for president was illegally being spied upon. what is your reaction to that? so, alex, i never thought i would be saying this, as someone who used to head up counterintelligence investigations for the fbi. but i m actually glad that department of justice released this document. it s unprecedented. we have never had a release of a fisa affidavit before, and it s worth reading for anyone in th