means it in a legal sense. he means a rhetorical sense. he is not just wrong he is dangerously wrong. by the way jim comey asks a rhetorical question what does it mean for the men and women of the fbi when you use the terms nar rhetoric. it has a unintended benefit to the people of the fbi. as frank knows the men and women of the fbi, i imagine they are bearing down really really hard on duties right now that they re ignoring the non-sense from the president of the united states and doubling and tripling efforts to protect us. they would be more likely to succeed if they were supported by the man in the white house. but i can tell you they are working hard to make sure we re okay. frank, i got another one for you. related topic, related character, from the washington post . rudolph gulini had a lengthy meeting last week with a former ukrainian diplomat as part of
the idea of him going closed door is not final. the idea of him testifying at all is not final. niece are ongoing negotiations. they are taking longer than we expected but i think it s because of those two things, the incredibly hostile political nature that is surrounding this investigation and of course the white house and whether or not they want to assert executive privilege over how much of this information all of that remains to be seen, breyen thank you for that reporting julia. our thanks if to our big three for bringing the a game on this friday night before the memorial holiday weekend. julia assign chuck rosenberg. frank figliuzdi here. and how the president order to investigate the investigators could put allies at risk. and later a war of words wab, a fake video a call for prayers and intervention for a man insisting on his stability and genius. a look back at a rougher than usual week in our nation s capitol now in its final hour.
who doesn t understand nor care about the national security concerns of the intelligence community. frank, simple question, do you concur with that. i do. pifrpg the heads of our intelligence services nsap cia, fbi. and others are about to be tested more than perhaps they have in progressional careers. they have to make a decision about how their intelligence is used exploited, twisted interpreted for political purposes. intelligence is either done professionally and used professionally or used politically. but it really can t be both. and i fear here in this kind of declassification trap that we re all being asked to fall into that really this is a political exploitation of intelligence. understand when the president says i quote i declassified everything well of course he hasn t declassified everything. and by the way, the attorney general has all the clearances he needs to look at intelligence.
it s to his political benefit. and then internally i can t imagine now the plight of the cia officer or the fbi counterintelligence agent. counterterrorism agent who has to convince a human source i ve got your back. your identity is never going to be disclosed. you need to come onboard with team america. having that person look across the table and say your president is declassifying everything. everything is exposed you can t guarantee anything. that could lead to people resigning and leaving posts and that s troubling. frank, i hate to go out on that note but we must. thank you for sticking around for this part of the vital conversation. coming up for us, 23 people have thus far lined on the other side to take him on. but donald trump seems to be concerned with one man in particular in the democratic column. two veteran political journalists break it down for us when the 11th hour comes right back. the 11th hour comes rigt
authorized surveillance. words matter. it s not spying. may i add one thing to what frank and julia said, because i think julia s idea of zooming out a bit is important. here is one other way to think about it. we have 17 agencies within the u.s. intelligence community, some quite large. frank mentioned them. dia, c. i. opinion nsa, fbi. some quite small all very good. when we declassify something and by the way the fbi is the one most likely to declassify it because i want to use it publicly in a criminal case. we run the declassification case through the entire intelligence community. we have the dni to oversee it so we only declassify things that are properly declassified. we never want to give in trort authority uni laterally to a attorney general. even if it was a really good attorney general and roint i fear we don t have that. the process matters. process sounds like a boring word but it really truly