of death on daytime. there s a set of things we do continuously. while fraiser is a magical programme in the mornings. i m not disputing fraiser s might. and that s our point of competition in the mornings because there s other things that people watch traditionally and they also want an escape from reality. but i wonder if you re grappling with a broader issue, which is that when channel 4 started, the things that it represented were running counter to the mainstream. but actually some of the things which channel 4 now represents have become the mainstream. and as such, it s not so clear what channel 4 is pushing up against. well, i would say two things, i think you re absolutely right to say in an age of youtube, what is there shocking left to put on television? we seem to still be finding it. but then you also have to look at the evidence. the evidence is we ve got by far the youngest profile of viewers. the evidence is we re the most financially successful we ve ever been. the evid
programme in the mornings. i m not disputing fraiser s might. and that s our point of competition in the mornings because there s other things that people watch traditionally and they also want an escape from reality. but i wonder if you re grappling with a broader issue, which is that when channel 4 started, the things that it represented were running counter to the mainstream. but actually some of the things which channel 4 now represents have become the mainstream. and as such, it s not so clear what channel 4 is pushing up against. well, i would say two things, i think you re absolutely right to say in an age of youtube, what is there shocking left to put on television? we seem to still be finding it. but then you also have to look at the evidence. the evidence is we ve got by far the youngest profile of viewers. the evidence is we re the most financially successful we ve ever been. the evidence is that we re doing incredibly well digitally, and we re ahead of our competition. 0ur
acknowledging the fact that you re an older organisation. he put out a commissioning document in april titled here comes trouble. he says he wants to give a voice to the unheard, say the unsayable and show the unseen. but then i m looking through today s channel 4 schedule and there s frasier, undercover boss usa, couples come dine with me, countdown, a place in the sun, great house giveaway, sun, sea and selling houses. that doesn t feel like it s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell documentary coming up. there s a whole range of things. there s also the huge piece we did about kyl
it s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell documentary coming up. there s a whole range of things. there s also the huge piece we did about kyle and kind of death on daytime. there s a set of things we do continuously. whilst fraiser is a magical programme in the mornings. i m not disputing fraiser s might. and that s our point of competition in the mornings because there s other things that people watch traditionally and they also want an escape from reality. but i wonder if you re grappling with a broader issue, which is that when channel 4 started, the things that it represented we
couples come dine with me, countdown, a place in the sun, great house giveaway, sun, sea and selling houses. that doesn t feel like it s a network which is saying the unsayable. that s mostly the daytime schedule, as you well know. but there s also a load of things that have been on in the past couple of weeks, like the davina show that i mentioned, derry girls, hellraisers, documentaries that we ve had on, we ve got coming up, something big on elon musk. we ve got troy deeney on how important it is that black history is taught in schools in the uk. we ve got ghislaine maxwell documentary coming up. there s a whole range of things. there s also the huge piece we did about kyle and kind of death on daytime. there s a set of things we do continuously. whilst fraiser is a magical programme in the mornings. i m not disputing fraiser s might. and that s our point of competition in the mornings because there s other things that people watch traditionally and they also want an escape from rea