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Well, its big because some people say that there were ten kilotons other people say in the ten kiloton range. So the north koreans are making very fast progress. They may have a Nuclear Warhead for their short and intermediaterange missiles. Within two or three years, theyll have a warhead that can hit the United States. They also now have two launchers that can hit the United States. So the American People are now starting to be at risk. The question has always been its easy, fairly enough, to detect what theyre doing. Its been impossible to stop it thus far. Where are we in terms of understanding what leverage works . Sanctions havent worked. International condemnation hasnt worked. What do you see on the horizon . Well, we have sanctions, of course, the United States and the International Community, but those sanctions are not as tough as they could be. As assistance Secretary Of State russell says, look, our sanctions are design to bring north korea to its senses, not to its knees.

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