steve: what he said is important, prosecutors have to prove intent. todd: i m glad you raise that, it is worth showing the defense cannot do anything to counteract what the prosecution is doing. the prosecution can put forth evidence, the defense gets to say the intent wasn t there and you look at an autopsy. the defense has a good chance of getting him off in this case. brian: i hope it is better than good. one thing that is also clear, i think might come up, other people involved. al sharpton said, i want the other guys, the ones grabbing his arm, prosecuted. if daniel penny had him in choke-hold too long, why did
there hasn t been since. there was no basis to object to a pence was initially pointing to a member of congress saying, hey, it s your opportunity now to bring forth evidence. i can save you, the evidence has to come forth from the floor. so that something that you might have been interested in hearing about. do we know if that s part of the special counsel s investigation? the whole thing, anyone who knew that there were steps being taken to disrupt that joint session is potentially within the range of scrutiny for special counsel. i don t think members of congress candidly are. they have a speech and debate protection religiously they can make projections as they did to particular states, even if they don t really have evidence to support that. i don t expect that jack smith s focus on, his criminal targets, members of congress. i do think the president and other advisers, lawyers, staff, others around him, who knew
separate. they re seeking a temporary restraining order. our argument is we already have one, the judge already has one in place, our argument, we now have been joined by oregon and new york and massachusetts announced today they would join our litigation as well. they really feel the coalition is joining them. bob, you have the administration has made clear that the reason these six countries were chosen, was that they have either supported terrorism or have no functioning government so we can t know who is coming here. why aren t those legitimate reasons to bar their refugees? well, you can look at homeland security, right? they issued a report made public not very long ago that said national origin is not a particularly good basis for determining national security. and yes, they put forth evidence, but we believe the evidence is quite strong that
under normal circumstances it would be a six column headline in my paper. and a serious person would have brought together the congressional leaders, briefed them on it, brought together the intelligence community and brought forth evidence. the fact he just lobbed it on twitter is shocking. the big picture, chuck, is russia is not our friend. slat mere putin is not our friend. he has some very specific goals. he wants to fracture nae toe and the european union. and he wants to destroy the ability of the united states to lead a western alliance. right now in moscow they must be clinking vodka glasses because they have thrown the west into complete disarray. i was going to say it doesn t matter what you think of their intentions. look at our country right now. what the russians intentions
and are unsubstantiated. you can say there s life on mars but i can t prove it. for which he needs to put forth evidence. i completely agree with you there. he needs to put forth evidence of this. but we cannot call it a lie until we know in fact that he doesn t have the evidence. if we know he intentionally deceived us, great, you can call it that. no one knows that. we haven t seen the evidence and we should give him time to produce it. the more that donald trump talks about voter fraud, the more democrats and others think that he was fraudulently elected. he actually won, so the idea that he keeps trying to undermine the system that elected him seems crazy to me. i like the part about life on mars. kayleigh makes a legitimate point that is pertinent to the topic of the media and i would say media bias, and that is did we call what bill clinton did a lie? we probably said that he said untruths. we use euphemisms. we didn t say lie.