that does it for us here on the beat with ari melber joy reid picks it up next. tonight on the reidout under new york state law, it is a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud and intent to conceal another crime. my lawyers came to me and said there s nothing here. they re not saying what you did. the defendant repeatedly made false statements on new york business records he also caused others to make false statements trump is still lying as local prosecutors pursue criminal charges against him doing the work that the doj should have been doing all along. despite warnings to refrain from inciting violence, trump is still attacking d.a. bragg the judge juan merchan and their families big breakthrough in wisconsin. but the challenge to democracy remains very real with republicans pushing minority rule and we begin with defendant donald j. trump, back at his mar-a-lago home after facing his first taste of the criminal justice system and
account, you have somebody who president while they re in office the department of justice says you can t prosecute the person then they leave office if the department of justice says, well, let s just look forward, not back ward, you have a de facto system which is the president is never going to be held to account. you know, when the mueller investigation, we had volume ii all about obstruction. obstruction, 11 counts. i was sitting there thinking f you re never going to vindicate that, why have a special counsel in the future because you re basically going to say, you know what, they can obstruct while they re a president and there s nothing you can do about it. that s correct. because you can t bring the case all you have to do is wait until you re no longer president because then you ll look forward. yeah. so it s a totally good point about the department of justice really just needs to bite the bullet yes, they ll be criticized. sure. but you know what, that s w
approves this part on the fbi to look into this, presumably just look into the dr. ford situation then what? washington examiner is with us right now. what joe manchin, lisa murkowski, heidi heitkamp and wanted to see. how will it go? will they be satisfied with one week investigation a week from now on the 5th of october wrapped up and only concludes with christie ford situation that makes no conclusions at all. yeah. some of those senators will, i think, be satisfied with a summit tri report. a lot of other democrats, i think, are going to cry foul. like you and the other guests were just talking about a second ago, the next fight is going to be overs who allegations are going to take into consideration. is the first said, the second set or the third you? better believe that democrats, because they want this investigation to extend as long as possible and to loom over the mid terms, you better believe that they are going to be fighting not just for dr. ford, but also for the ramire
wondered too. i had very different impressions who thought what waextended here and from a lot of democrats earlier on. their understanding was that this delay would include getting corroboration or stories from debra ramirez and julie swetnick and michael avenatti client and republicans just the opposite. and certainly the official read you had from chuck grassley s office is that would extend to and as you said be limited to dr. christine ford s allegations. so, already you could have a week from now when this is all done and the fbi really here is what we found out from witnesses were involved or looking at or mentioned in the dr. ford situation and democrats coming out and saying whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. what about these others? you know, can i see the problem already. the problem is there and we really don t know yet what the white house is saying either. if, in fact, they say no, it s going to be limited only to dr. ford and judge kavanaugh. now you have got the rub and the bump
they did that with march for the as well. that s what s fascinating. after the man ford situation manafortsituation. run to the door. this is it this goes directly into the oval office. we got the details into the manafort it goes directly to 2005, 2006. this is more serious though because michael flynn was actually the national security advisor. pete: after he got elected. rachel: for 20 some days he was fired for lying by the put himself. i think really what the crime here in my opinion for trump is he made a bad choice. he had been warned that flynn was not the best choice. a lot of politicians make that decision early on as a new candidate, as a new president. pete: no one trusts the media u coming up it, happened again, illegal immigrants accused of a vicious crime. now we are learning he was deported 20 times. yes, you heard it right. 20. how did that happen?