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Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:11:00

go how he wants. last night i played this briefly at the top of the show, he was speaking after bob costello who had formerly advised michael cohen, came out and testified yesterday in front of the grand jury and was speaking about his reputation and character which were both highly regarded. so here s what he said. do you think there is any chance that alvin bragg does not indict donald trump at this point? i do think there is a chance. and i think beyond a reasonable doubt that bob costello s testimony tips the scale in favor of not bringing this case. is it possible that a majority of the 23-member grand jury does not vote to indict president trump? and keep in mind you re if in new york. this is not a voir dire jury in a jury trial that you re getting a little bit of a sense of how they might decide cases. but you re looking at more than the indictment. if you re alvin bragg at the vote tally, you want to be sure

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:10:00

doesn t get special treatment. so that s the principle. but, at the same time, we do need to be concerned that the legal system is not used as a weapon. and if somebody is the former president, that raises the concern that we don t want to see prosecutors going after what might look like the leader of the political opposition. so i do think that the prosecutors might have to satisfy themselves. we have overwhelming evidence. and all the cases that i gave as examples that this is more egregious than even the average case. and i do think that this is more egregious. we re not just talking about a few thousand dollars. we re talking about hush money payments in an election and that also leads to state tax crimes potentially with michael cohen. that s bigger than a lot of the other cases that have been prosecuted. in this moment, what s this grand jury going to do? what alvin bragg is going to do and then the grand jury, which i guess there is a snowball s chance in hell that it doesn t

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:01:00

says the d.a. must indict. he is here to explain exactly why to you. plus, ron desantis in a new interview calls trump attacks background noise, predicts he can beat biden. this of course from a man who has not declared that he s even running. and a judge tearing into fox news accusing the network of knowingly providing false information as tucker carlson s private texts were shown in a court. we re going to show you what tucker carlson said. let s go outfront. and good evening. i m erin burnett. outfront tonight, blow up our country, those are the words of a gop senator who warns an indictment against the former president trump, which could come as early as tomorrow, would be disastrous for america. it s going to blow up our country, and this is a bunch of b.s. now, in just a few hours, the grand jury in new york investigating the $130,000 payment that trump s fixer michael cohen made to stormy daniels, the adult film star, will meet. the grand jury s going to

Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20240604 15:23:00

testify. and then you can hear what the anticipated defense may be, and you have a witness under oath that you can go after if they purger themselves. and i don t want to base my case on mr. cohen, because he has his own problems, but at least it gives them the chance to hear things in advance and kind of like the lawyer does in discovery so you know what the other side is going to say, and this is testimony under oath in a criminal case, and it is not that common, but it is going to allow him, the prosecutor to have that in the back pocket to move forward, and good gamesmanship, and at the end of the day whether it really matters, i don t know if it matters or if it is going to sway them one way or another, i don t know.

Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20240604 15:19:00

appear before the grand jury today and expected to contradict cohen s testimony about hush money payments made years ago. and also, he could call him back as a rebuttal witness. we go to paula reid who is back today with us. and now, let s separate from what is said and what is actually happening today. so today, the grand jury will have the opportunity to hear from rob costello, and the prosecutors are running the show on the grand jury, this is a witness that was requested by the defense, and even though the prosecutors didn t have to grant that request, i understand it is an optics thing, and if they declined this thing, it is an investigation already in the biggest thing in the country, and so the grand jury is going to hear from him, and it is expected they would like to hear about him about the credibility of michael cohen who previously represented cohen, but corner has waived attorney/client privilege which is why he is

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