officials don t want that. this is a huge partisan football, it is being used for certain propaganda purposes. there is an element here of just opening up a process that the american public frankly rarely gets a glimpse into how these warrants are presented to the court and what the over sight is. if republicans truly cared of fisa reform, you may see some actual proposal put on the table, okay, how can we prevent any kind of american citizens being targeted based on phony evidence before the court. their ideas out there from the obama administration and you can have an advocate for someone that s targeted which exists of the court. i have not seen any of that put forward by the people who are pushing this memo. that s a debate worth having in terms of fisa reform. is there going to be a serious setback for u.s. intelligence gathering and cooperating of friendly foreign intelligence services or maybe a loss of some sensitive sorts of
forward? will they take on fisa reform? going to hold f.b.i. agents who allegedly took part in this corruption and misbehavior and abuse of the process accountable? will people lose their jobs? as we ve seen before with the federal government in terms of abusing power, it is very difficult to hold these people accountable and so republicans are going to have to live up to the standards they ve set for themselves in terms of the outrage surrounding the contents of the memo. bill: they just voted to expand fisa and they knew it in the middle of all this. that s the problem. if they will use it as a political document as they re accused of doing by the left. adam schiff have accused them of doing that. the way they can stop that accusation is by putting some real reforms on the table for congress to work with. as you just mentioned, they just pushed through fisa on the 702 level in the middle of all of this and so there is a danger here for republicans of overhyping the contents of th
said that publicly, he sent his chief of staff john kelly to castigate the attorney general, to castigate the deputy attorney general, other senior members of law enforcement. that looks like what he s done in other cases when he s tried to shut this down. what makes it such a problem for him is these motives are transparent. he s made clear he s not doing this because of fisa reform. he s told multiple people around him he s doing this because he s trying to shut down the investigation. i would be very surprised if this doesn t become another incident that bob mueller decides to take a look at. let s bring jim comey into the mix. who hillary clinton would say caused her a world of hurt. the president would make the same argument tweeted this. all should appreciate the fbi speaking up. i wish more of our leaders would. but take heart, american history shows that, in the long run, weasels and liers never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. not a lot of schools or streets
we have paul ryan and right there just defending the release of this memo. lee zelden was on a moment ago defending the release of this memo. he said an interesting thing. when the memo comes out leadership, senior leadership at the fbi and doj will obviously need to change. well, katy i think lee zelden told you what he was not supposed to say out loud. paul ryan and other republicans made a case releasing the memo is not about the mueller investigation. in their words this is about the fisa reform. that could not be any further from the truth. when zelden talks about changes at the top of the department of justice there s one name associated with this memo that s rod rosenstein. rod rosenstein in addition to being the deputy attorney general is important in this context because he s the one that controls the mueller investigation. bob mueller and his team of investigators go to rod rosenstein every time they have
program as it is with the government holding those billions of records not private companies because he says he s not sure the private companies are up to it. well i think you re going to have a debate in the congress house and senate on this. i know judiciary is in the process of marking there, fisa reform and patriot act authorization, we ll see what happens through the amendment. process. when i was doing this in my own practice we had no problem getting information for the private phone carriers when we needed that information. i want to go back though to the question because there are a lot of critics who say this hasn t been that effective anyway and hasn t broken up plots. from your experience as a prosecutor and chairman of house homeland security how important and how effective is the program to have the metadata to be able to connect the dots and not the