where that investigation guess. martha: today we expect more thanks that same committee hearing. we ll hear from a white house attorney. reporter: her name is jennifer o connor, she worked for the irs for six months last year. she was not there when the white house supposedly found out lois lerner s emails appeared. in the end they decided she ll appear and i m told she is expected to testify. they will put her under oapt and see what she knew about the missing emails and what could have been con to find out there were thousands of emails missing, martha. martha: that s 26 minutes away. mike, thank you very much. we ll see you later. some saying the ir s sayinge
wrongdoing. martha: jason ch ge jay jasoz was in that hearing and he will in the hearing today. let s go back to last night for a moment in terms of koskinen and what he had to say. is there any indication to you that he who was brought in to figure out what happened and get the irs under control is making a conscious evident to shake the bushes and figure out what s going on there? we have lost total confidence in the commissioner. he has not been candid and forthright. when you know sock is wrong you have a duty and obligation to ask those people under subpoena to ask for documents and that information. hide the document is not the game we appreciate in the united states congress. martha: it appears the mo is to ride it out. you have got to go in there and
irs failure to do something about the missing emails is a coverup. i believe what happened was a crime, i believe there are other emails involved. and i bleach somebody took a criminal act in this destruction and i believe since you can t tell me i m wrong and there is enough of a doubt in your mind, as the commissioner of the fbi you should called the fbi. martha: such claims are raying questions whether a special prosecutor should be brought in to find out where those emails went. some people feel the justice department will never call for a special prosecutor in this case. bill: i want to bring in steve hayes. you find what, inconsistencies and inaccuracies in what koskinen has testified to so far? last night there were so much things that didn t mawch. sometimes with what he said previously and sometimes moments
investigation. let s let the facts ferret these things out. we only have a certain percentage of them, not 100% of them, how do you come to your final conclusion. that s why this is such an absolute mess. it s the irs targeting americans. that s why we are in this mess. it s totally unacceptable. martha: the hearing is getting underway. i know you have to get in there. bill: there are new developments in the tabloid phone hacking scandal. a jury finding an edstorm guilty and a fellow editor not guilty. reporter: the verdicts hand down the months long phone hacking trial. rebekah brooks the former head of the then u.k. newspaper group or parent copy of fox news found not guilty of running a campaign
sift through this. the justice department is going do nothing. there will never be a special prosecutor. how do you look at that situation and get up in the moaning and go back in there and ask questions? we ll keep digging deep. i happen to think we have got to get down into the bowels. you have to find the geeks and nerd who understand how the i.t. functions work. we are going another layer deep with the testimony we heard about what happens or didn t happen with the archiving of material. then we have got the point person who was there on the ground in 2013 who was supposed to provide this information to congress. it was august of 2013 we issued a subpoena that was none responsive. we have the person there this morning. she has first hn firsthand k. martha: she worked for the