sift through this. the justice department is going do nothing. there will never be a special prosecutor. how do you look at that situation and get up in the moaning and go back in there and ask questions? >> we'll keep digging deep. i happen to think we have got to get down into the bowels. you have to find the geeks and nerd who understand how the i.t. functions work. we are going another layer deep with the testimony we heard about what happens or didn't happen with the archiving of material. then we have got the point person who was there on the ground in 2013 who was supposed to provide this information to congress. it was august of 2013 we issued a subpoena that was none responsive. we have the person there this morning. she has first hn -- firsthand k. martha: she worked for the