now denounced atheist and joung me the author of that book, the chairman of the religious freedom coalition, bill murray. great having you here. when i see some of the pictures i remember when your mother was sort of in her heyday and she was a reviled woman because she he offended the sensitivities and senseabilities of so many god firing americans. did you grow up feeling that hey, people hate my mother and hate me. did you wear it as a badge of courage at the time? our family was definitely dinner. mike: that s putting it mildly. and we did, we were different. i mean, as you said, my mother attempted to defect to the soviet union, she was a marxist leader in the community and our neighborhood was for the most part immigrants from many of those communist countries, from poland, from hungary, from
he made a good case for it. outsourcing american jobs and firing americans from the job so that people in other countries can do the work instead, that is not something that happens in bad weather. nobody is in favor of it. the chamber has been advocating in favor of offshoring jobs for years. if you are against outsourcing jobs and think it s right that american companies should hire americans and firing americans to hire foreigners instead is wrong. taking the other side of the argument. if you think outsource suggest wrong, there is a lobby that is wrong. the president today true to his style did not say that anybody was wrong. i know you want america to succeed. depending on how you define it. they really don t. they say that they don t they are not shy about it. the president is on the other
differently at times. but we re all americans. i know you love this country. i know you want america to succeed just as badly as i do. that sounds awesome. it is more than just a rhetorical fluish. that is an assertion that can be tested i am peerk cli. ask yourself, are you rooting for america to succeed if you are rooting for businesses here to stop hiring american workers? in fact, if you re rooting for american businesses to fire americans who work for them and instead hire foreigners, because that s where the chamber stands. here is their president and ceo on out sourcing and firing americans and having the work done by people in other countries. there are legitimate values in outsourcing, not only jobs but work. the chamber of commerce prooutsourcing and not shy of it. check this out from 2004. u.s. chamber of commerce president thomas done hue urged
i know you love this country. i know you want america to succeed just as badly as i do. that sounds awesome. it is more than just a rhetorical flourish. that is an assertion that can be tested imperically. ask yourself, are you rooting for america to succeed if you are rooting for businesses here to stop hiring american workers? in fact, if you re rooting for american businesses to fire americans who work for them and instead hire foreigners, because that s where the chamber stands. here is their president and ceo on out sourcing and firing americans and having the work done by people in other countries. there are legitimate values in outsourcing, not only jobs but work. the chamber of commerce pro-outsourcing and not shy of it. check this out from 2004. u.s. chamber of commerce president thomas done hue urged american companies to send jobs overseas.
he made a good case for it. but outsourcing american jobs, firing americans from their jobs so people in other countries can do that work instead? that is not something that just happens to us like bad weather, even though nobody is really in favor of it. the chamber of commerce has been openly advocating in favor of offshoring u.s. jobs for years. so if you re against outsourcing american jobs, if you think it is right that american companies should hire americans, and that firing americans to hire foreigners instead is wrong, you re not fighting a straw man. there is somebody else who is taking the other side of that argument. if you think outsourcing is wrong, there is a prooutsourcing lobby that is wrong. the president today true to his style did not say that anybody was wrong. i know you want america to succeed. depending how you define it. they really don t. i mean, they say explicitly they don t. they re not shy about it.