fact that i guess he didn t take seriously enough when an f.b.i. agent comes knocking on your door you don t have to be under oath for it to impact you legally and he didn t give honest answers. sandra: don t lie to the f.b.i., right? right. sandra: so your take on where the morning goes as right now juan you are joining you ve been watching this breaking news unfold. your thoughts. well, the question in my mind is this a plea deal? it s a charge one charge of lying. but when you think about it in the broader context, is this a deal that then would take robert mueller the special counsel somewhere? does flynn have information that was so valuable that mueller was willing to enter into a plea deal we ll make one charge of lying, which would was obvious given what sally yates and the acting attorney general told the white house counsel at the time. president trump was slow to get involved. i think it took him two weeks after he was informed to fire
i don t know. it s a narrow category of people it could be. wo is in that list should. pence and reince priebus. is the president? the president is in that list as well. it would explains if they were in the know and explain why he was so reluctant to fire flynn. why at the time the president was not upset that flynn had lied, but only that the press found out. that is consistent with a president who knew this all along. the core allegations involved here, shortly after flynn was interviewed by the fbi, i believe on the terror24th. sa sally yates warned him that he lied and he asked the fbi
dershwitz. what i heard from him in general you want to say publicly, we ll cooperate. but ty cobb has made it a point to say we re going to give everything over. if you look at the new york times report, which you reported organization it goes into how people like trump loyalists, who are not around him anymore, are saying you have to fight this. you have to be on offense. then you get into jared kushner. he s terrible. he s an absolute joke. the worst political adviser. he is. he is an absolute joke. and by the way, i would say, i would say, you know, he should go back to real estate in new york. unfortunately i hear, i don t know real estate in new york. he is not very good at that either. what i do know is, he said we should fire he, you should fire flynn, should you fire mueller, should you do this, you should do that. you should make deals on things
think that the significance of ty cobb s statement if that s what you re referring to but finding out if the president knew this is an interesting point heidi raised. we know that flynn was fired because pence was kept in the dark and pence was mad and the president stood by his vp. we never learned whether or not donald trump was blindsided by any of this information. and that is something mueller is going to be interested in. what did donald trump know about what mike flynn was doing? was there discussions that if mike flynn was fired that he might reveal what the president knew? those are the sort of things i would be interested in if i were on mueller s team. that s why i would be making this document request. not so much because i think that you d fire flynn to an obstruction investigation but because the discussions around what they knew about what flynn knew and what and concerns about what he might say about others might reveal a lot about their state of mind and make
a lot of people i ve talked to say i never wanted to do business with donald trump, he did things i wasn t comfortable with. i don t think this is all that radical a break. it s really important to see this in context in the timeline. on the night of the dinner, the 27th of january, what s just happened? acting attorney general sally yates has just come to the white house and said mike flynn has a serious problem, you hav somebody who isubject to blackmail. what happens the next day? the president has this one-on-one dinner with his fbi director and tries to get an expression of loyalty. he decides finally he has no course but to fire flynn. what does he do the next day? he pulls aside his fbi director and says, can t you let this go? had he made some sort of commitment to flynn that nothing further would happen as part of the resignation package? we don t know. we do have evidence that there