september 5th, 2018. the more we need to worry. as the months of 2018 dropped from the calendar, so how the veil. the evidence of a worst case scenario grows. life inside those white house gates is as wacky as the most frightened of us has imagined. recall your own reaction when the book fire and fury, arrived in january. questioning the president s fitness to manage his office. then an expose who described life around the president as unhinged. and then all the president s huffing and puffing is not likely to blow down. most frightfully, the dawn to
he s the author of trump nation, a book about donald trump. and msnbc contributor. and david frum, a senior editor for the atlantic is the author of trumpocracy. john heilemann, you ve done this kind of work that bob woodward has done, you ve done it on then campaign trail, most famously and most widely read, game change and other books. your assessment of how this battle is going so far as we come to the end of day one of the trump white house versus bob woodward. well, about how you would p have expected it to go, which is to say very well for bob woodward and very poorly for the white house.or the white house has had has been lucky in some sense in its enemies, although everything that we ve read so far from the woodward book, at least the excerpts and the reporting on it is very consistent with what we saw in michael wolff s book. it is the reality that whatever you think of fire and fury michael wolff is a more easily attacked messenger than bob e kn woodward. again,
your assessment of how this battle is going so far as we come to the end of day one of the trump white house versus bob woodward. well, about how you would have expected it to go, which is to say very well for bob woodward and very poorly for the white house. the white house has had has been lucky in some sense in its enemies, although everything that we ve read so far from the woodward book, at least the excerpts and the reporting on it is very consistent with what we saw in michael wolff s book. it is the reality that whatever you think of fire and fury michael wolff is a more easily attacked messenger than bob woodward. again, without even being mean to michael wolff although there are issues with michael wolff. bob woodward is the gold standard. right? and i think there is and bob woodward has been in this crossfire before. many times before. and look, he s got again, you said i m familiar with it. i am. there s a really very high premium. a if you re going to do a bo
over time but donald trump and his son continue to say that the then candidate did not know about the meeting when it happened. in the book fire and fury the president s former chief strategist opined there was zero chance the president did not know about the meeting. bannon called the meeting tresson us and predicted that don junior would crack like an egg under the pressure from the russia investigation. meanwhile, michael cohen s attorney is backtracking after claiming his client would be willing to tell the special counsel don junior told about the meeting before it happened. cohen told lawmakers on the senate finance committee that the president was unaware of the meeting at the time. cohen s legal team says he stands by his testimony. cohen s lawyer, lanny davis, tells nbc news he takes responsibility for the mistake. new polling shows widespread doubt among the americans when it comes to the president s approach to the special counsel. according to the latest nbc news/ wall st
and the manafort trial, which is the legal proceeding that honestly has the least to do with him, what will happen when this woodward book comes out and the mueller investigation really starts coming to a head? well, that s right. i mean, president trump, donald trump, cornered, is clearly when he lashes out the most. it appears that some of this frenetic action and tweeting is because he feels a sense of increasing besiegement or whatever. that bob woodward book is coming out, i believe on september 11th, so just in a few weeks time. and remember his very, very strong response to the allegations contained in the michael wolff book fire and fury at the beginning of this year. michael wolff is nothing like the journalist that bob woodward is. knowing bob well, i for one suspect that there will be a lot of original reporting and eyebrow-raising revelations about what it s like to work in the trump white house.