faith and charity from. and if people approach them from different environments, and different circumstances, then we ve got to also be realistic about some may need more charity than others, some may need more hope than others. glenn: no, hang on a second. again, you are going to the system. i m going through the execution. you re going through the internal, the character part. glenn: yes. i agree glenn: i m not talking about because when you have people who tell the truth, when you have people who revere god and when you have people who are charitable in their hearts, everything can be solved. may not be 100% to your liking or my liking but we can solve things. correct. glenn: would you agree? i agree with that. glenn: is that the principle because i was thinking about this today with you. you were at martin luther king s elbow. no. i was after king. i worked with jackson glenn: you were not walking with no. mrs. king. glenn: i didn t know that.
in fairness, only 17 times more. this would be entertaining if this were an episode of the price is right. remember the yodeler going up the mountain? it would be great. but this isn t the price is right. this is our country. what was it that alan greenspan said would happen to the country if they were wrong? supposing we are wrong on the cost estimates and indeed they are actually much higher than the best estimates can generate. the consequences are very severe. glenn: suppose that they re higher. what then? can i ask a question? is that like a broken leg? severe or we re all going to die severe. either way, thanks for the timely advice, al. forget for a minute the mountain of past evidence i have more, but i don t have time that proves the
disagree on the way to get there. okay. glenn: here is where i wonder if we could come together. this show has been we re making it this year about faith, hope and charity. that is what originally united america together. faith, different faiths, but a belief in god. hope, the truth. the truth shall set you free. and charity. being good to each other. would you agree that that approach not about politics or policies, but prince approximate, principles, faith, hope, charity could unite america? i agree. i think it could and should unite america. but i think as we have had in the past you have to have an honest discussion of where people approach their hope,
reckless. the c.b.o. said the bill was wonderful and would stave money. i know they did. i know they did. based on the paperwork that the congress gave them. alan greenspan just came out in the nick of time after the bill was passed and said that if the numbers are correct, everything is going to be fantastic. yes, he did. but he also talked about what happens if the numbers were wrong? here it is. what happens if we are wrong? in other words, in the case now where our buffer between our capacity to borrow and actual debt is narrowing for the first time i think in american history. glenn: yes. there is a question, supposing we are wrong on the cost estimates. glenn: yes. and indeed they are actually much higher. glenn: craziness. than the best estimates can generate, the consequences are very severe. glenn: very severe. wow! wow! first of all, can i point out i believe you and i were
but i came up by the lieutenant of the king movement. i think what martin luther king who probably a lot of people disagreed with vehemently. on my twitter, i get all kind of tweet that you think dr. king was everything to everybody. but what dr. king stood for outlasted even the politics of that time. that s what you are talking about. basic stuff that outlasts you and my, we have vehement disagreements. glenn: absolutely. principles outlast both of us. glenn: there was something a friend of mine gave me today and i wrote it down. our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. that has been your mantra. you believe in certain things. you re not going to say silent. how do people navigate, because i believe things that matter to me. i want to say them.