because they were never meant for public consumption in the aftermath, we were never meant to see them. but on a deeper level, whether there was a paper trail about some of these decisions, rishi sunak said basically that he didn t think there was a particular issue with that, it wasn t like he was trying to hide anything, but some of these conversations did take place in private. all this came up from an article that was written in the spectator magazine in the summer of last year, which was an interview that was done with rishi sunak at the time when he was a leadership contender. where he talked generally about how decisions were being made during the time. and i think it was quite an interesting insight into exactly that. let s hear a little bit from it now. exactly that. let s hear a little bit from it now. the author of the article says bit from it now. the author of the article says that bit from it now. the author of the article says that you bit from it now. t