armed forces on remembrance sunday at a service in the cenotaph in london. thousandsjoined members of the public and the rest of the uk in a two minute silence at 11am. it has just gone to 30 pm. good afternoon. now, here on bbc news, the interview. we re at the elysee palace in paris. that s the official residence and office of france s president. i ve just been speaking to the current occupant, emmanuel macron, about some of the biggest global challenges facing us today from the wars raging in the middle east and in ukraine, to climate change and the new technologies changing all of our lives. we ve had weeks of aid organisations sounding the alarm about gaza. and so you ve now said that humanitarian pauses in fighting aren t enough and there needs to be work towards a ceasefire. are you disappointed that other world leaders aren tjoining you in that call like the us or the uk? no, i hope they will. and let s be clear, i mean, i was one of the first leaders to call the pr
a democracy should be compliant with international rules of war and humanitarian international law. and day after day, what we saw is a permanent bombing of civilians in gaza. we worked very hard to try to protect people, our people there, because we believe we lost more than a0 french nationals and we still have hostages. and when i speak about that, first i think about our families. but what happened during the past weeks is that we clearly saw that a lot of civilians were killed and there is no justification for that. and the clear conclusion of everybody yesterday during the humanitarian conference, from united nations to ngos, to all the governments being present, is that there is no other solution than first a humanitarian pause going to a ceasefire which will allow to protect these people, to take care of people being in hospitals and to protect babies, ladies, old people, all the civilians having nothing to do with these terrorists. and i think it s very important to
reports coming out of gaza painting a grim picture right now of the humanitarian situation there. what more can you tell us about how hospitals in gaza are coping? itruiith you tell us about how hospitals in gaza are coping? in gaza are coping? with great difficulty because in gaza are coping? with great difficulty because they - in gaza are coping? with great difficulty because they are - in gaza are coping? with great difficulty because they are all. difficulty because they are all pretty much surrounded in gaza city because the israelis argue these are places where hamas fighters have based themselves and consequently, there are intense battles going on around those hospitals. the israelis say they are not targeting the hospitals per se and they are trying to get the civilian populations that are clustered around them to try and leave, and also starting to think about evacuating the hospitals themselves so that israel can concentrate on dealing with hamas. there is a sm
world leaders are not joining you in that call, like the us or the uk? no, i hope they will. and let s be clear, i mean, i was one of the first leaders to call the prime minister and president of israel after the terrorist attack on the 7th of october. we clearly condemn this terrorist attack by this terrorist group and recognise the right of israel to protect itself and react. but day one, we say that this reaction, the fight against terrorism, because it is led by a democracy, should be compliant with international rules. rule of war and humanitarian international law. and day after day, what we saw is permanent bombing of civilians in gaza. and i think it is very important to say the whole story. but i think this is the only solution we have, the ceasefire. because it is impossible to explain, we want to fight against terrorism by killing innocent people. you have talked about the fight against terrorism needing to be merciless, is the word you used, but not without rules.
we ve had weeks of aid organizations sounding the alarm about gaza. and so you ve now said that humanitarian pauses and fighting aren t enough and there needs to be work towards a ceasefire. are you disappointed that other world leaders aren tjoining you in that call like the us or the uk? no, i hope they will. and let s be clear. i mean, i was one of the first leaders to call the prime minister and president of israel after the terrorist attack the 7th of october. we clearly condemn this terrorist attack and terrorist group and recognize the right of israel to protect itself and react. but day one, we say that this reaction and the fight against terrorism, because it is led by a democracy should be compliant with international rules of war and humanitarian international law. and day after day, what we saw is a permanent bombing of civilians in gaza. we worked very hard to try to protect people, our people there, because we lost more than a0 french nationals and we still have