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MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes September 8, 2020 00:25:15
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ukraine was being dragged into, quote, internal politics using our president who is fresh on the job, inexperienced that could just destroy everything, end quote. another key defense raised by the president is that ukraine felt no pressure, that these investigations are entirely proper. well, here s ukraine saying the opposite of that. you know what else danylyuk said in the interview? quote, it was definitely john who i trusted, end quote talking about ambassador bolton. so if you want to know whether ukrainians felt pressure, call john bolton as a witness. he was trusted by ukraine and he was there for these key meetings, and he was so concerned that he characterized the scheme as a drug deal, and urged dr. hill and others to report their concerns to nsc legal counsel who reports to white house counsel cipollone. so let s ask ambassador bolton these questions directly under
saying, yes, we did felt pressure. yes, we did know that the money was was being withheld. he s never said that to date. the evidence seems clear that he already knew that. but he has not, in a sense, cooperated with the truth. and so i assure that pompeo wants to smooth all this over. and add to the fact, pompeo is one of the senior advisors who tried to talk the president out of withholding this financial aid because it was going to cause tremendous political problems, for which it did. let me ask you about that, doug thornell. what s been reported in the new york times today. how that changes the prism through which we re looking at all this. the meeting rick was alluding to there is one that took place in august with the secretary of state, defense secretary, john bolton as well. a meeting of high drama in the oval office. those three men, those three advisors to the president tried to talk him into releasing this aid. the president was unswayed. the money was being pissed aw
there. let s go through each article. abuse of power or quid pro quo, bribery, call it whatever your focus group wants to call it because at the end of the day, you don t have the facts to make out the case. you don t have the facts because the other party on your quid pro quo, your alleged quid pro quo, never felt pressure. we have a primary document, a primary source of information that is the transcript of the call that shows there was no connection. we also have the other party, president zelensky who said at no time did the ukrainians feel any pressure to have an investigation. we also know that no investigation of biden ever took place. we also know that aid was given to ukraine, aid that they never knew at the time was being under review, and aid that came in the form of javelin missiles, not what the obama administration gave which were well wishes and
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