don t know exactly where the pieces are on the chessboard or what roles they play. i think dan is actually dead on the money on his assessment of this. we talk about materiality and try to decide if it s money or something else, a way that s helpful for me to think about it is if you re investigating me for branch robbery and i lie to you about my hair color, nobody cares very much. it s not material. but if i lie to you about being asked to drive the get away car, then that would be an important matter and something that i could be charged interefor lyin about. it s the same deal here. it looks like a lot of the smoke surrounds the money and am ony making potential. dan mentions the foreign corrupt act. on the family member side, they would argue they weren t originating this plan. this is coming from felix seder and cohen s the one making the calls, and they re receiving,
develop real estate deals for something like ten years, though president trump now says he would not recognize him if he saw him in the same room. here is another interesting bit. this is an e-mail from felix seder, bab this deal, in moscow. let s make this happen, and build a trump moscow and possibly fix relations between the countries by showing everyone that commerce and business are much better and more practical than politics. that should be putin s message as well and we will help him agree on that message. help world peace, and make a lot of money. i would say that s a great life time goal for us to go after. in october. those are basically the talking points we then heard from candidate donald trump and now from president donald trump. interesting is felix seder first pitched the idea to michael cohen and we learned from the plea deal yesterday cohen briefed the president then candidate trump, on this multiple times. so trump was very much in the
the president halashing out insisting over and over again he didn t do anything wrong. richard nixon and watergate, we know what happened, and we know it largely because of the reporting of woodward and bernstein. bob woodward joins me now, author of fear, trump in the white house. bob, so much to talk about. i just want to begin with this reporting about the trump tower penthouse in moscow, an idea floated within the trump organization, according to felix seder, who was involved with the deal. that it would be earmarked as a gift for vladamir putin. does that make sense to you, given again, the president s insistence that he had no deals with russia? maybe somebody was working for the cartoonist, because you
of vladimir putin, somebody whose conduct led to sanctions against russia. you know, an adversary to the united states. you know, there s all sorts of reasons why the president s comments there don t really hold up. now, does this lead to criminal charges? you know, lots of questions whether the president can even be criminally charged, but probably not, but on the core question whether the president was candid with the american people, told the truth to the american people about his dealings with russia, i think the cohen plea really puts a big hole in that. remind viewers that you were the first reporter to sort of spell out the ties between russia and the trump campaign and introduced the world to carter page, who was another character i want to bring up here. felix seder. not a household name yet he also was instrumental in the trump organization and helping to
which has certainly been the case. was that the same motive that led to a favorable plank in the party platform. and obviously, motive to lie about having any financial connections to russia during the campaign. if michael cohen and felix seder, who was trying to make the deal happen in russia for the president, reportedly, this deal included offering vladimir putin a $50 million penthouse, in a building with trump s name on it, to boost sales to other oligarchs. all of which the president was lying about even after he was a republican nominee for president. more proof of a problem for the president. if it is all nonsense, none of this is true, why has russia been lying to cover for trump, just like cohen did? when first asked about trump reaching out to them through cohen, here s what kremlin spokesman said, it was in august