for it, to hide the source of money possibly coming in from overseas. or to park debt so your lenders don t know that you may have more debt than you have disclosed. and of course, donald trump has been a debt carnivore his whole career, and he s now the subject of a very sophisticated and serious federal investigation run by bob mueller that is going to look at money laundering. that s very interesting. if he gets into this and he gets into michael cohen s transactions writ large, michael cohen was trump s personal attorney. michael cohen was involved with felix seder and other deals with the trump administration with career criminals, it s a problem. richard, there s no contention of anything that happened here being not consensual. it was in the interview that s published, consensual encounter, which is now being denied, but if you read the interview, you can make up your own mind about whether it happened. i guess, to the extent that you
mueller privately you cannot look into these issues, follow the money, consider or investigate whether the russians laundered money through the trump organization, guaranteed loans for the trump organization, you cannot look at any things that could provide leverage over this president by the russians. i know time is short, i have one last question to ask you which i m pretty sure you can t answer but going to try anyway. it s about these reports that your committee is planning on interviewing rona graf, long time assistant at trump organization and felix seder, ex-con, mob associated and involved in the secret plan to build trump tower moscow in the campaign, said the real estate project would be to getting trump elected. one or more of those would be happening in new york city as
interviewing rona graf, long time assistant at trump organization and felix seder, ex-con, mob associated and involved in the secret plan to build trump tower moscow in the campaign, said the real estate project would be to getting would result in trump getting elected. it s been reported one or more of those would be happening in new york city as opposed to washington, which i can t figure out. can you confirm and tell us why they re happening in new york if that s the truth? i can t confirm to specific witnesses, but i can tell you this there are two witnesses that are very significant that we ve asked to be brought before the committee for months thats majority has refused to invite before our committee. they did schedule one of them today while we had the tax vote, was scheduled to be interviewed out of state.
with the russians to help the trump team. and he even was asking the trump campaign what he should say when he was over there in russia. and just like george papadopoulos, he was trying to arrange a meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin. now this is a theme that we ve seen throughout the campaign team. not just papadopoulos. remember, felix seder back in december 2016 is telling michael cohen if we can get donald trump and putin together, we can engineer this and make our boy president there is a theme of trying to get dirt on hillary clinton, trying to connect donald trump and putin. and of course failing to disclose it to anyone. there is a reporting today saying there is a bit of a split in the diplomatic corps about the president s upcoming meeting on the side lanes of a summit with vladimir putin. they re scheduled to meet face-to-face. obviously there are some who feel that obviously this is a nation that we have a lot of different issues with. we have to talk to them
actually get in and use the business dealings in any future proceeding? we have this very interesting set of facts that michael cohen was involved in negotiating with the russians to build a trump tower in moscow and remember there was e-mail message from felix seder that said going to get to putin and talk about this. now goes from routine business deal to political matter reaching to very top of the government of russia. what are your interactions with them? as you heard senator clooklobuc talking about, it s illegal for foreign government to make contribution or anything of value in our elections. this is when donald trump is running for president. what robert mueller is looking for, was there in business relationships any discussion of assistance in the campaign, quid pro quo, a debt, leverage,